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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 06/04/16 a las 07:45, Dave Crossland
      escribió:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James
            Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div id=":6d4" class="a3s" style="overflow:hidden">The
                hiding of SLOBs deliberations once they move to their
                private<br>
                mailing list</div>
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          Why is the SLOB list private?
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    There is actually explicit Sugar Labs principles regarding this. We
    are supposed to be an "Open Organization" as defined here:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs#Principles">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs#Principles</a> - Especially the
    section called "information".<br>
    <br>
    I thought I remembered some language in this direction in
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board</a> but I can't find it.<br>
    Anyhow I expect SLOBS members to be aware of this policy and only
    use private channels where it is otherwise impossible to be open.<br>
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    That said, I have not read anything from several slobs on public
    lists, ever.<br>
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        text;">Principles</span></h3>
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      background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">In order for Sugar to be
      successful, it needs the participation of a large number of people
      who share common goals while maintaining independence, so that
      each participant has the ability to act independently. For these
      reasons, Sugar Labs subscribes to the principles described<span
        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow"
        class="external text"
href="http://flors.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/the-paradigm-of-the-open-organization/"
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      an<a rel="nofollow" class="external text"
href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050317231119/http://interactors.coop/organizacionabierta"
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        100% 50%;">original text in Spanish.</a></p>
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      255);"><span class="mw-headline" id="Identity" style="cursor:
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        text;">Identity</span></h4>
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Clear mission – Fully disclosed
        objectives.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Declared commitments –
        Affinities and aversions explained.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Declared outside connections –
        Relationships with other organizations explicitly listed.</li>
    </ul>
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        text;">Structure</span></h4>
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Horizontal organization – Teams
        and facilitators work on responsibilities and agreements.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Identified contributors – Who is
        who, people are reachable.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Clear responsibilities – Who is
        in charge of what.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Activities described – All of
        the ongoing work is acknowledged.</li>
    </ul>
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      background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">See<span
        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
        href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team/Guide/Wiki_Structure"
        title="Wiki Team/Guide/Wiki Structure" style="text-decoration:
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        background: none;">Wiki Structure</a><span
        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for a guide to how the
      wiki models Sugar Labs' structure.</p>
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      255);"><span class="mw-headline" id="Operation" style="cursor:
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        text;">Operation</span></h4>
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Open participation – Anybody can
        access the information and get a first responsibility.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Meritocracy – Responsibilities
        are acquired (or lost) based on one's skills, results, and
        contributors’ support.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Voluntary (non-)engagement –
        Nobody is forced to be involved or to keep responsibilities.</li>
    </ul>
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      -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background: none rgb(255, 255,
      255);"><span class="mw-headline" id="Information" style="cursor:
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        text;">Information</span></h4>
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      14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Regular reports – Reported
        activities and future plans allow monitoring and participation.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Information accessible – Even
        internal operational information is available by default.
        <dl style="margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; cursor:
          url("https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/10/TextSmall.cur"),
          text;">
          <dd style="line-height: 1.5em; margin-left: 1.6em;
            margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px;">We try to operate<span
              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><b><a
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Archive/Current_Events/2009-06-10#En_plein_air"
                  title="Archive/Current Events/2009-06-10"
                  style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128);
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                  plein air</a></b></i>.</dd>
        </dl>
      </li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Explicit confidentiality – It is
        explained what matters are confidential, why, and who can access
        them.</li>
    </ul>
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      255);"><span class="mw-headline" id="Goods" style="cursor:
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        text;">Goods</span></h4>
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Economic model – Feasibility and
        sustainability plans are exposed. (Please see/contribute to the
        discussion<a
          href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Funding"
          title="Sugar Labs/Funding" style="text-decoration: none;
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Resources – Inventory of items
        detailing who contributed what and why.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Public accounts – It’s clear
        where the money comes from and where it goes.</li>
      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">A special<span
          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
          href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Thank_You"
          title="Sugar Labs/Thank You" style="text-decoration: none;
          color: rgb(11, 0, 128); border-bottom-width: 1px;
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          background: none;">thanks</a><span
          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to our contributors.</li>
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