<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Hi,<div><br></div><div>Just to share OLPC France experience on the same issue with mailman on our private mailing list.</div><div>We had lot of junk mails received every day on this mailing list from mailbox that didn't subscribe to the list.</div><div>Manual administration of this is probably a full time job for a moderator so days after days this mails saturated our server and we had a crash (no place left on the disk) every two month.</div><div><br></div><div>The problem was solved when we decided to check the option "Discard held messages older than this number of days." in the list settings. We choose to autodiscard held mails after 8 days. Of course there is a risk to loose some mails but the sender is notified so we could hope that he had time to contact a member directly.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my two cents.</div><div><br></div><div> Lionel.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-03-30 18:00 GMT+02:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:21:55 -0500<br>
From: Sebastian Silva <<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>><br>
To: Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
Cc: iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, Sugar Labs Systems<br>
<<a href="mailto:systems@lists.sugarlabs.org">systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help<br>
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There is a number of reasons a message could wind up in the moderation<br>
queue.<br>
<br>
If it is over 256k. If you send it from a different address than the one<br>
you are subscribed.<br>
<br>
The one that bit me, was that mailman thought my email was some kind of<br>
administrative email (subscription request or something).<br>
<br>
It also seems like some people have been automatically unsubscribed<br>
against their will because of some kind of bounce email automatic<br>
processing.<br>
<br>
El 28/03/15 a las 13:46, Gonzalo Odiard escibi?:<br>
> Are all the mail moderated or only mail from who is not in the list?<br>
><br>
> Gonzalo<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Sebastian Silva<br>
> <<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello members of IAEP and Sugar-devel :<br>
><br>
> It looks like both of these lists have been without an active<br>
> mantainer<br>
> for some time. I noticed this, as one email I wrote got stuck in<br>
> moderation.<br>
><br>
> I consulted with Bernie, our Infrastructure Team leader, and, in<br>
> accordance to his suggestion, proceeded to take action.<br>
><br>
> For the time being I've assumed administrative control of both lists.<br>
><br>
> It looks like the traffic is not much anymore so moderating<br>
> shouldn't be<br>
> much of a hassle. Still, I think it would be healthy if I could<br>
> team up<br>
> with at least a couple of more people who would be willing to process<br>
> the moderation queue, or even better, if somebody could assume<br>
> responsibility of it.<br>
><br>
> Anybody says aye?<br>
><br>
> Your friendly infrastructure team systems administrator<br>
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> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Gonzalo Odiard<br>
><br>
> SugarLabs - Software for children learning<br>
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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 07:06:37 +1100<br>
From: James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>><br>
To: Sebastian Silva <<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>><br>
Cc: iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, Gonzalo Odiard<br>
<<a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>>, Sugar Labs Systems<br>
<<a href="mailto:systems@lists.sugarlabs.org">systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help<br>
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 02:21:55PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:<br>
> There is a number of reasons a message could wind up in the<br>
> moderation queue.<br>
><br>
> If it is over 256k.<br>
<br>
As list post volume has fallen, and cost per byte has fallen, I<br>
propose you double or quadruple that limit. As consequence, the risk<br>
of busy moderator will be reduced.<br>
<br>
> If you send it from a different address than the one you are<br>
> subscribed.<br>
><br>
> The one that bit me, was that mailman thought my email was some kind<br>
> of administrative email (subscription request or something).<br>
><br>
> It also seems like some people have been automatically unsubscribed<br>
> against their will because of some kind of bounce email automatic<br>
> processing.<br>
<br>
Yes, this is an irritating problem. The problem can be seen by a list<br>
maintainer ... when a burst of unsubscribe notifications arrive with a<br>
pattern.<br>
<br>
I'm happy with my moderation responsibilities on <a href="http://lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">lists.laptop.org</a>;<br>
they keep me busy ... but if you have no other volunteers for<br>
moderation, let me know.<br>
<br>
--<br>
James Cameron<br>
<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
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