<div dir="ltr">Caryl and Sebastian, <div>Looks like a plan.</div><div>We can confirm that in the next SLOBs meeting.</div><div>About <a href="mailto:members@sugarlabs.org">members@sugarlabs.org</a>, I don't know who manage that,</div><div>maybe Bernie?</div><div><br></div><div>Gonzalo</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Forgot to mention, we also need to get access to
<a href="mailto:members@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">members@sugarlabs.org</a>, since I suspect new membership applications
have gone stale for a long time now. (see [1])<br>
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[1]
<a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership</a><br>
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<div>El 10/03/15 a las 15:05, Sebastian
Silva escibiķ:<br>
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Hi Caryl,<br>
Thanks for co-volunteering with me!<br>
<br>
As I see it, what needs to be done is:<br>
1- Tally up a list of current Sugar Members's emails (starting
from <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List" target="_blank">here</a>)<br>
2- Setup a survey to ask if they want to stay active, voting
members (I propose to use the LimeSurvey software. Infrastructure
team can set it up and it's easy to use.)<br>
3- Get familiar with Selectricity, our current voting
mechanism. Get access to the voting machine.<br>
4- Improve the voting experience. For instance, <i>en espaņol
</i>instructions are a must in this community.<br>
5- Determine in consensus <i>when</i> an election will take
place.<br>
<br>
If we can be formally appointed, I'm certain you will be able to
contribute to every step of the process.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Sebastian<br>
<br>
<div>El 10/03/15 a las 14:18, Caryl
Bigenho escibiķ:<br>
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<div>Hi All</div>
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For heaven's sake! No wonder we are always stalled. If it will
help, I'll do the election. It can't be that much work. I have
no conflicts of interest. What would I need to do?
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<div>Caryl<br>
<br>
<div>> From: <a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a><br>
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:54:09 -0500<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Will anything change this time?<br>
> <br>
> Adam,<br>
> <br>
> To your "conflict of interest" concern and with all
the love to my<br>
> husband, I can only respond that I believe I have
enough skills and<br>
> merit by myself.<br>
> <br>
> Best wishes,<br>
> Laura V<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> 2015-03-10 13:31 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank"><sebastian@fuentelibre.org></a>:<br>
> > Well,<br>
> > It's 2015 and we are all hackers here.<br>
> ><br>
> > Your question is only a technical question, and
the whole process has always<br>
> > been/forever will be open for scrutiny.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Sebastian<br>
> ><br>
> > El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt escibiķ:<br>
> ><br>
> > If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee
which is fine with me, how do<br>
> > we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque
conflict-of-interest with his wife running<br>
> > for office, and himself running the election?<br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva
<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank"><sebastian@fuentelibre.org></a><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Yes,<br>
> >> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior
email:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I have volunteered to be member of elections
committee since Oct 2014.<br>
> >> I cannot do this work without being
appointed the role by the board, as<br>
> >> per the governance model.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Therefore, the board would have to appoint
me formally.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Regards,<br>
> >> Sebastian<br>
> >><br>
> >> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard
escibiķ:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Would be good if someone volunteer to
integrate the elections committee<br>
> >> to replace Luke.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Gonzalo<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter
Bender <a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank"><walter.bender@gmail.com></a><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Sebastian,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> The election was discussed in public
SLOB meetings. We made public<br>
> >>> decisions with opportunity for public
input. If you want to ask the<br>
> >>> board to revisit its decisions, that is
fine. Please try to be<br>
> >>> concrete in your proposal.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> regards.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> -walter<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM,
Sebastian Silva<br>
> >>> <a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank"><sebastian@fuentelibre.org></a>
wrote:<br>
> >>> > Actually, the governance model says
nothing about election at the end<br>
> >>> > of<br>
> >>> > every year, nor about shortages of
candidates. It does say:<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an
Oversight Board, consisting of seven<br>
> >>> > (7)<br>
> >>> > members elected by the Sugar
community—the Sugar Membership. The<br>
> >>> > positions<br>
> >>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a
two-year staggered basis. The<br>
> >>> > members of<br>
> >>> > the Oversight Board may be removed
from the position at any time by a<br>
> >>> > majority vote of the Community
Members. Upon the resignation or removal<br>
> >>> > of a<br>
> >>> > member of the Oversight Board, the
Community Members shall elect a<br>
> >>> > replacement Community Member to
serve on the Oversight Board.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > In my humble opinion, the decision
about when to do elections should<br>
> >>> > not<br>
> >>> > reside with the board, but with the
elections committee.<br>
> >>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > At any rate this course of events
should've been discussed/announced to<br>
> >>> > the<br>
> >>> > Sugar Labs members.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > It could've been expected, that the
board members with expired period<br>
> >>> > would<br>
> >>> > simply no longer be board members
and that the 2 candidates would be<br>
> >>> > promoted to board members (as
pretty much happened last year, except no<br>
> >>> > shortage).<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > I have volunteered to be member of
elections committee since Oct 2014.<br>
> >>> > I cannot do this work without being
appointed the role by the board, as<br>
> >>> > per<br>
> >>> > the governance model.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > I did not become a candidate
because I was expecting do the gruntwork<br>
> >>> > to run<br>
> >>> > the election.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > I will abide by what the majority
of Sugar Labs members wish and the<br>
> >>> > accepted oversight board.<br>
> >>> > If we are to run elections any time
we need to also follow<br>
> >>> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members</a>
:<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > Currency assurance policy[edit]<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar
Labs Membership list is reflective of<br>
> >>> > the<br>
> >>> > current status of the project and
its participants, once a year members<br>
> >>> > will<br>
> >>> > be asked to confirm that they still
wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If<br>
> >>> > this<br>
> >>> > request bounces, or if a request
has not been replied to after it has<br>
> >>> > been<br>
> >>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more
current email address, and c) six<br>
> >>> > months<br>
> >>> > have passed, the member will be
sent a removal notice with an<br>
> >>> > invitation to<br>
> >>> > reapply.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > I am in technical capacity and have
the good will to begin working with<br>
> >>> > these objectives as soon as I get
the board's appointment.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > I would like to hear more opinion
from the community about the election<br>
> >>> > process.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > Regards,<br>
> >>> > Sebastian<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel
Greenfeld escibiķ:<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > If the current governing documents
don't allow mid-term replacements<br>
> >>> > due to<br>
> >>> > someone resigning or shortages,
that might be something worth amending<br>
> >>> > them<br>
> >>> > to include.<br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM,
Walter Bender<br>
> >>> > <a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank"><walter.bender@gmail.com></a><br>
> >>> > wrote:<br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> We run elections at the end of
each year. If we have fewer candidates<br>
> >>> >> than slots to fill, we don't
run the election. We'll run another<br>
> >>> >> election at the end of 2015.<br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> Regards.<br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> -walter<br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36
PM, Laura Vargas <a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank"><laura@somosazucar.org></a><br>
> >>> >> wrote:<br>
> >>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't
understood well your intructions at that<br>
> >>> >> > time...<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > Now, my name is on the
list ;D<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > According to your logic,
we should run elections when we have enough<br>
> >>> >> > candidates.<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > How many additional
candidates do we need?<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00
Gonzalo Odiard <a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><godiard@sugarlabs.org></a>:<br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015
at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas<br>
> >>> >> >> <a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank"><laura@somosazucar.org></a><br>
> >>> >> >> wrote:<br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo,<br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> Regarding the
Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are going to me be<br>
> >>> >> >>> made, how do you
justify not to rotate the board members with long<br>
> >>> >> >>> time active
volunteers? specially those who have shown interest,<br>
> >>> >> >>> like<br>
> >>> >> >>> I have<br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >> Hi Laura,<br>
> >>> >> >> Why you didn't follow
the procedure to make your candidature?<br>
> >>> >> >> You only needed add
your name to<br>
> >>> >> >> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates</a><br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >> That was requested
many times, and there are only two candidates to<br>
> >>> >> >> fill 4<br>
> >>> >> >> seats.<br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >> Gonzalo<br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> Thanks and I
really hope (for the sake of the kids) we can run a<br>
> >>> >> >>> democratic
community soon!<br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06
GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><godiard@sugarlabs.org></a>:<br>
> >>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian,<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> > In this
specific case, we will keep the replies from the<br>
> >>> >> >>> > deployments<br>
> >>> >> >>> > confidential<br>
> >>> >> >>> > and release a
general inform with conclusions without naming the<br>
> >>> >> >>> > deployment<br>
> >>> >> >>> > involved.<br>
> >>> >> >>> > There are a
reason for that, and anybody involved in negotiation<br>
> >>> >> >>> > with<br>
> >>> >> >>> > countries
will understand.<br>
> >>> >> >>> > Every time
than a country say will buy N number of hardware with<br>
> >>> >> >>> > X<br>
> >>> >> >>> > software,<br>
> >>> >> >>> > all the big
companies start to pressure.<br>
> >>> >> >>> > Transparency
have a big value, but we can't be naive.<br>
> >>> >> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> >>> >> and we
are organizing a face to face meeting with all the<br>
> >>> >> >>> >> members<br>
> >>> >> >>> >> fro<br>
> >>> >> >>> >> SLOBs,<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> >>> >> How will
this help to address Dan's (valid) concern?<br>
> >>> >> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> >>> >> to
discuss strategies.<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> > We need do a
deep discussion we can't do by irc or email.<br>
> >>> >> >>> > I don't know
if this is the solution, but we are trying<br>
> >>> >> >>> > something<br>
> >>> >> >>> > different.<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> >>> >> We are
discussing more ideas, like survey the community and<br>
> >>> >> >>> >> teachers,<br>
> >>> >> >>> >> like<br>
> >>> >> >>> >> was
proposed in this list.<br>
> >>> >> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> >>> >> And?<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> > I don't
understand the question.<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> > Gonzalo<br>
> >>> >> >>> ><br>
> >>> >> >>> >
_______________________________________________<br>
> >>> >> >>> > IAEP -- It's
An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
> >>> >> >>> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >>> >> >>> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> --<br>
> >>> >> >>> Laura V.<br>
> >>> >> >>> I&D
SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype
acaire<br>
> >>> >> >>> IRC kaametza<br>
> >>> >> >>><br>
> >>> >> >>> Happy Learning!<br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >> --<br>
> >>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard<br>
> >>> >> >><br>
> >>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software
for children learning<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > --<br>
> >>> >> > Laura V.<br>
> >>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire<br>
> >>> >> > IRC kaametza<br>
> >>> >> ><br>
> >>> >> > Happy Learning!<br>
> >>> >> >
_______________________________________________<br>
> >>> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education
Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
> >>> >> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >>> >> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >><br>
> >>> >> --<br>
> >>> >> Walter Bender<br>
> >>> >> Sugar Labs<br>
> >>> >> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >>> >>
_______________________________________________<br>
> >>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education
Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
> >>> >> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >>> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> >
_______________________________________________<br>
> >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project
(not a laptop project!)<br>
> >>> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >>> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>> ><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> --<br>
> >>> Walter Bender<br>
> >>> Sugar Labs<br>
> >>> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Gonzalo Odiard<br>
> >><br>
> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>
_______________________________________________<br>
> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a
laptop project!)<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ <a href="http://unleashkids.org" target="_blank">http://unleashkids.org</a>
!<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop
project!)<br>
> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop
project!)<br>
> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Laura V.<br>
> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
> <br>
> Identi.ca/Skype acaire<br>
> IRC kaametza<br>
> <br>
> Happy Learning!<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop
project!)<br>
> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
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<br>_______________________________________________<br>
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
<a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Gonzalo Odiard<br><br><div>SugarLabs - Software for children learning <br></div></div></div>
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