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Hi Gonzalo,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 10/03/15 a las 08:35, Gonzalo Odiard
escibió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't will reply about your interpretation of our
communication, looks like will not change with anything I can
say.
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<div>We are trying to make something different this time, we
started a survey</div>
<div>already sent to people responsible on deployments, to get
more information,</div>
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Is the contents of this survey publicly available?<br>
Will the results be?<br>
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SLOBs please remember <a
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs#Principles">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs#Principles</a><br>
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<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Regular reports – Reported
activities and future plans allow monitoring and participation.</li>
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href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Archive/Current_Events/2009-06-10#En_plein_air"
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<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Explicit confidentiality – It is
explained what matters are confidential, why, and who can access
them.</li>
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<div>and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the
members fro SLOBs, </div>
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How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern?<br>
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<div>to discuss strategies. </div>
<div>We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community
and teachers, like was proposed in this list.</div>
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And?<br>
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<div>Gonzalo</div>
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<div>PS: To people involved in deploying Sugar (on XOs or
other hardware), if are interested in participate, </div>
<div>and didn't received the survey yet, send me a email.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Dan
Tenason <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dan.tenason@mail.ru" target="_blank">dan.tenason@mail.ru</a>></span>
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As part of my research, I reviewed iaep since the
inception of the project. This same general discussion
comes up over and over. A long term supporter of the
project expresses concern over the future of the project.
Dr Bender replies with a Sugar Digest post that everything
is perfect. At that point Dr Bender marginalizes
the provocateur personally and professional. A few weeks
later Dr. Bender will send another Sugar Digest that he
has discussed the situation with the board. They will have
decided that the current path is best.<br>
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This is a very effective strategy if people are clamoring
to join the project. What will happen this time?<span
class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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-- <br>
Dan Tenason</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Gonzalo Odiard<br>
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<div>SugarLabs - Software for children learning <br>
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