<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Personally I would be more interested in why groups/organizations don't use Sugar than what existing deployments are looking for to continue using it.<br><br></div><div>In order for Sugar to become more than a niche product it is going to have to accommodate a wider population.<br><br>The XO/Sugar/Schoolserver combination was originally promoted as a complete solution which could be used independently without anything else.<br></div><br></div>But in practice, there is a need to integrate with other solutions. Sugar may be a great educational environment but there is a need to tie it into existing schools and curriculums. OLPC had educators on staff looking into this problem, but I don't think we have that luxury.<br><br></div>As an example, the same kludge hacks kept being made over and over to integrate Sugar & XOs into environments where the schoolserver might not control the network, proxy authentication/802.1x networks were used, etc. For some reason this functionality never made it upstream.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Hi Sebastian,</div><div><br></div><div>In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the deployments confidential</div><div>and release a general inform with conclusions without naming the deployment involved.</div><div>There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in negotiation with countries will understand.</div><div>Every time than a country say will buy N number of hardware with X software,</div><div>all the big companies start to pressure.</div><div>Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive. </div><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the
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How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern? </div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>
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<div>We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community
and teachers, like was proposed in this list.</div></div></div></blockquote></span>
And?</div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I don't understand the question.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Gonzalo</div></font></span></div>
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