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Well,<br>
It's 2015 and we are all hackers here.<br>
<br>
Your question is only a technical question, and the whole process
has always been/forever will be open for scrutiny.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Sebastian<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt
escibió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which
is fine with me, how do we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque
conflict-of-interest with his wife running for office, and
himself running the election?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM,
Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Yes,<br>
Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email:<span
class=""><br>
<br>
<i>I have volunteered to be member of elections
committee since Oct 2014.</i><i><br>
</i><i> I cannot do this work without being appointed
the role by the board, as per the governance model.</i><i><br>
</i><i> </i><br>
</span> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me
formally.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Sebastian<br>
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<div>El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Would be good if someone volunteer to
integrate the elections committee
<div>to replace Luke.</div>
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<div>Gonzalo</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at
2:47 PM, Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Sebastian,<br>
<br>
The election was discussed in public SLOB
meetings. We made public<br>
decisions with opportunity for public input.
If you want to ask the<br>
board to revisit its decisions, that is fine.
Please try to be<br>
concrete in your proposal.<br>
<br>
regards.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
-walter<br>
</font></span>
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On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian
Silva<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org"
target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Actually, the governance model says
nothing about election at the end of<br>
> every year, nor about shortages of
candidates. It does say:<br>
><br>
> Sugar Labs shall be governed by an
Oversight Board, consisting of seven (7)<br>
> members elected by the Sugar
community—the Sugar Membership. The
positions<br>
> on the Oversight Board will be on a
two-year staggered basis. The members of<br>
> the Oversight Board may be removed
from the position at any time by a<br>
> majority vote of the Community
Members. Upon the resignation or removal
of a<br>
> member of the Oversight Board, the
Community Members shall elect a<br>
> replacement Community Member to serve
on the Oversight Board.<br>
><br>
> In my humble opinion, the decision
about when to do elections should not<br>
> reside with the board, but with the
elections committee.<br>
> Aparently lfaraone is MIA.<br>
><br>
> At any rate this course of events
should've been discussed/announced to the<br>
> Sugar Labs members.<br>
><br>
> It could've been expected, that the
board members with expired period would<br>
> simply no longer be board members and
that the 2 candidates would be<br>
> promoted to board members (as pretty
much happened last year, except no<br>
> shortage).<br>
><br>
> I have volunteered to be member of
elections committee since Oct 2014.<br>
> I cannot do this work without being
appointed the role by the board, as per<br>
> the governance model.<br>
><br>
> I did not become a candidate because
I was expecting do the gruntwork to run<br>
> the election.<br>
><br>
> I will abide by what the majority of
Sugar Labs members wish and the<br>
> accepted oversight board.<br>
> If we are to run elections any time
we need to also follow<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members</a>
:<br>
><br>
> Currency assurance policy[edit]<br>
><br>
> In order to ensure that the Sugar
Labs Membership list is reflective of the<br>
> current status of the project and its
participants, once a year members will<br>
> be asked to confirm that they still
wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If this<br>
> request bounces, or if a request has
not been replied to after it has been<br>
> a) resent, b) checked for a more
current email address, and c) six months<br>
> have passed, the member will be sent
a removal notice with an invitation to<br>
> reapply.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I am in technical capacity and have
the good will to begin working with<br>
> these objectives as soon as I get the
board's appointment.<br>
><br>
> I would like to hear more opinion
from the community about the election<br>
> process.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Sebastian<br>
><br>
> El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel
Greenfeld escibió:<br>
><br>
> If the current governing documents
don't allow mid-term replacements due to<br>
> someone resigning or shortages, that
might be something worth amending them<br>
> to include.<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM,
Walter Bender <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> We run elections at the end of
each year. If we have fewer candidates<br>
>> than slots to fill, we don't run
the election. We'll run another<br>
>> election at the end of 2015.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards.<br>
>><br>
>> -walter<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM,
Laura Vargas <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"
target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > I'm really sorry I didn't
understood well your intructions at that<br>
>> > time...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Now, my name is on the list
;D<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > According to your logic, we
should run elections when we have enough<br>
>> > candidates.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > How many additional
candidates do we need?<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00
Gonzalo Odiard <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>>:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at
1:18 PM, Laura Vargas <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"
target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Hi Gonzalo,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Regarding the Sugar
Labs Board, if no elections are going to
me be<br>
>> >>> made, how do you
justify not to rotate the board members
with long<br>
>> >>> time active
volunteers? specially those who have shown
interest, like<br>
>> >>> I have<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Laura,<br>
>> >> Why you didn't follow
the procedure to make your candidature?<br>
>> >> You only needed add your
name to<br>
>> >> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> That was requested many
times, and there are only two candidates
to<br>
>> >> fill 4<br>
>> >> seats.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Gonzalo<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Thanks and I really
hope (for the sake of the kids) we can run
a<br>
>> >>> democratic community
soon!<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06
GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>>:<br>
>> >>> > Hi Sebastian,<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> > In this
specific case, we will keep the replies
from the deployments<br>
>> >>> > confidential<br>
>> >>> > and release a
general inform with conclusions without
naming the<br>
>> >>> > deployment<br>
>> >>> > involved.<br>
>> >>> > There are a
reason for that, and anybody involved in
negotiation<br>
>> >>> > with<br>
>> >>> > countries will
understand.<br>
>> >>> > Every time than
a country say will buy N number of
hardware with X<br>
>> >>> > software,<br>
>> >>> > all the big
companies start to pressure.<br>
>> >>> > Transparency
have a big value, but we can't be naive.<br>
>> >>> >><br>
>> >>> >> and we are
organizing a face to face meeting with all
the members<br>
>> >>> >> fro<br>
>> >>> >> SLOBs,<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> >><br>
>> >>> >> How will
this help to address Dan's (valid)
concern?<br>
>> >>> >><br>
>> >>> >> to discuss
strategies.<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> > We need do a
deep discussion we can't do by irc or
email.<br>
>> >>> > I don't know if
this is the solution, but we are trying
something<br>
>> >>> > different.<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> >><br>
>> >>> >><br>
>> >>> >> We are
discussing more ideas, like survey the
community and<br>
>> >>> >> teachers,<br>
>> >>> >> like<br>
>> >>> >> was
proposed in this list.<br>
>> >>> >><br>
>> >>> >> And?<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> > I don't
understand the question.<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> > Gonzalo<br>
>> >>> ><br>
>> >>> >
_______________________________________________<br>
>> >>> > IAEP -- It's An
Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>> >>> > <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>> >>> > <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> --<br>
>> >>> Laura V.<br>
>> >>> I&D
SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Identi.ca/Skype
acaire<br>
>> >>> IRC kaametza<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Happy Learning!<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Gonzalo Odiard<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> SugarLabs - Software for
children learning<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Laura V.<br>
>> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire<br>
>> > IRC kaametza<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Happy Learning!<br>
>> >
_______________________________________________<br>
>> > IAEP -- It's An Education
Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"
target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Walter Bender<br>
>> Sugar Labs<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>
_______________________________________________<br>
>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project
(not a laptop project!)<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>
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> IAEP -- It's An Education Project
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<br>
--<br>
Walter Bender<br>
Sugar Labs<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Gonzalo Odiard<br>
<br>
<div>SugarLabs - Software for children
learning <br>
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