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    Well,<br>
    It's 2015 and we are all hackers here.<br>
    <br>
    Your question is only a technical question, and the whole process
    has always been/forever will be open for scrutiny.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Sebastian<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt
      escibió:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAHaBuGeoT2hy6Qi=oHYJMUoZ7nrnsBDq1t7tKujb=pb8VZ7mqg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which
        is fine with me, how do we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque
        conflict-of-interest with his wife running for office, and
        himself running the election?<br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM,
          Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Yes,<br>
              Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email:<span
                class=""><br>
                <br>
                <i>I have volunteered to be member of elections
                  committee since Oct 2014.</i><i><br>
                </i><i> I cannot do this work without being appointed
                  the role by the board, as per the governance model.</i><i><br>
                </i><i> </i><br>
              </span> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me
              formally.<br>
              <br>
              Regards,<br>
              Sebastian<br>
              <br>
              <div>El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió:<br>
              </div>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Would be good if someone volunteer to
                      integrate the elections committee
                      <div>to replace Luke.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Gonzalo</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at
                        2:47 PM, Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
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                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Sebastian,<br>
                          <br>
                          The election was discussed in public SLOB
                          meetings. We made public<br>
                          decisions with opportunity for public input.
                          If you want to ask the<br>
                          board to revisit its decisions, that is fine.
                          Please try to be<br>
                          concrete in your proposal.<br>
                          <br>
                          regards.<br>
                          <span><font color="#888888"><br>
                              -walter<br>
                            </font></span>
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian
                              Silva<br>
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org"
                                target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>>

                              wrote:<br>
                              > Actually, the governance model says
                              nothing about election at the end of<br>
                              > every year, nor about shortages of
                              candidates. It does say:<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an
                              Oversight Board, consisting of seven (7)<br>
                              > members elected by the Sugar
                              community—the Sugar Membership. The
                              positions<br>
                              > on the Oversight Board will be on a
                              two-year staggered basis. The members of<br>
                              > the Oversight Board may be removed
                              from the position at any time by a<br>
                              > majority vote of the Community
                              Members. Upon the resignation or removal
                              of a<br>
                              > member of the Oversight Board, the
                              Community Members shall elect a<br>
                              > replacement Community Member to serve
                              on the Oversight Board.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > In my humble opinion, the decision
                              about when to do elections should not<br>
                              > reside with the board, but with the
                              elections committee.<br>
                              > Aparently lfaraone is MIA.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > At any rate this course of events
                              should've been discussed/announced to the<br>
                              > Sugar Labs members.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > It could've been expected, that the
                              board members with expired period would<br>
                              > simply no longer be board members and
                              that the 2 candidates would be<br>
                              > promoted to board members (as pretty
                              much happened last year, except no<br>
                              > shortage).<br>
                              ><br>
                              > I have volunteered to be member of
                              elections committee since Oct 2014.<br>
                              > I cannot do this work without being
                              appointed the role by the board, as per<br>
                              > the governance model.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > I did not become a candidate because
                              I was expecting do the gruntwork to run<br>
                              > the election.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > I will abide by what the majority of
                              Sugar Labs members wish and the<br>
                              > accepted oversight board.<br>
                              > If we are to run elections any time
                              we need to also follow<br>
                              > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members"
                                target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members</a>
                              :<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Currency assurance policy[edit]<br>
                              ><br>
                              > In order to ensure that the Sugar
                              Labs Membership list is reflective of the<br>
                              > current status of the project and its
                              participants, once a year members will<br>
                              > be asked to confirm that they still
                              wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If this<br>
                              > request bounces, or if a request has
                              not been replied to after it has been<br>
                              > a) resent, b) checked for a more
                              current email address, and c) six months<br>
                              > have passed, the member will be sent
                              a removal notice with an invitation to<br>
                              > reapply.<br>
                              ><br>
                              ><br>
                              > I am in technical capacity and have
                              the good will to begin working with<br>
                              > these objectives as soon as I get the
                              board's appointment.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > I would like to hear more opinion
                              from the community about the election<br>
                              > process.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Regards,<br>
                              > Sebastian<br>
                              ><br>
                              > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel
                              Greenfeld escibió:<br>
                              ><br>
                              > If the current governing documents
                              don't allow mid-term replacements due to<br>
                              > someone resigning or shortages, that
                              might be something worth amending them<br>
                              > to include.<br>
                              ><br>
                              > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM,
                              Walter Bender <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
                              > wrote:<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> We run elections at the end of
                              each year. If we have fewer candidates<br>
                              >> than slots to fill, we don't run
                              the election. We'll run another<br>
                              >> election at the end of 2015.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Regards.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> -walter<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM,
                              Laura Vargas <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"
                                target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
                              >> wrote:<br>
                              >> > I'm really sorry I didn't
                              understood well your intructions at that<br>
                              >> > time...<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > Now, my name is on the list
                              ;D<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > According to your logic, we
                              should run elections when we have enough<br>
                              >> > candidates.<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > How many additional
                              candidates do we need?<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00
                              Gonzalo Odiard <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>>:<br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at
                              1:18 PM, Laura Vargas <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"
                                target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
                              >> >> wrote:<br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>> Hi Gonzalo,<br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>> Regarding the Sugar
                              Labs Board, if no elections are going to
                              me be<br>
                              >> >>> made, how do you
                              justify not to rotate the board members
                              with long<br>
                              >> >>> time active
                              volunteers? specially those who have shown
                              interest, like<br>
                              >> >>> I have<br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >> Hi Laura,<br>
                              >> >> Why you didn't follow
                              the procedure to make your candidature?<br>
                              >> >> You only needed add your
                              name to<br>
                              >> >> <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates"
                                target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates</a><br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >> That was requested many
                              times, and there are only two candidates
                              to<br>
                              >> >> fill 4<br>
                              >> >> seats.<br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >> Gonzalo<br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>>  Thanks and I really
                              hope (for the sake of the kids) we can run
                              a<br>
                              >> >>> democratic community
                              soon!<br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06
                              GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>>:<br>
                              >> >>> > Hi Sebastian,<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> > In this
                              specific case, we will keep the replies
                              from the deployments<br>
                              >> >>> > confidential<br>
                              >> >>> > and release a
                              general inform with conclusions without
                              naming the<br>
                              >> >>> > deployment<br>
                              >> >>> > involved.<br>
                              >> >>> > There are a
                              reason for that, and anybody involved in
                              negotiation<br>
                              >> >>> > with<br>
                              >> >>> > countries will
                              understand.<br>
                              >> >>> > Every time than
                              a country say will buy N number of
                              hardware with X<br>
                              >> >>> > software,<br>
                              >> >>> > all the big
                              companies start to pressure.<br>
                              >> >>> > Transparency
                              have a big value, but we can't be naive.<br>
                              >> >>> >><br>
                              >> >>> >> and we are
                              organizing a face to face meeting with all
                              the members<br>
                              >> >>> >> fro<br>
                              >> >>> >> SLOBs,<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> >><br>
                              >> >>> >> How will
                              this help to address Dan's (valid)
                              concern?<br>
                              >> >>> >><br>
                              >> >>> >> to discuss
                              strategies.<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> > We need do a
                              deep discussion we can't do by irc or
                              email.<br>
                              >> >>> > I don't know if
                              this is the solution, but we are trying
                              something<br>
                              >> >>> > different.<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> >><br>
                              >> >>> >><br>
                              >> >>> >> We are
                              discussing more ideas, like survey the
                              community and<br>
                              >> >>> >> teachers,<br>
                              >> >>> >> like<br>
                              >> >>> >> was
                              proposed in this list.<br>
                              >> >>> >><br>
                              >> >>> >> And?<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> > I don't
                              understand the question.<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> > Gonzalo<br>
                              >> >>> ><br>
                              >> >>> >
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              >> >>> > IAEP -- It's An
                              Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
                              >> >>> > <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
                              >> >>> > <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>> --<br>
                              >> >>> Laura V.<br>
                              >> >>> I&D
                              SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype
                              acaire<br>
                              >> >>> IRC kaametza<br>
                              >> >>><br>
                              >> >>> Happy Learning!<br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >> --<br>
                              >> >> Gonzalo Odiard<br>
                              >> >><br>
                              >> >> SugarLabs - Software for
                              children learning<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > --<br>
                              >> > Laura V.<br>
                              >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire<br>
                              >> > IRC kaametza<br>
                              >> ><br>
                              >> > Happy Learning!<br>
                              >> >
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              >> > IAEP -- It's An Education
                              Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
                              >> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
                              >> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >> --<br>
                              >> Walter Bender<br>
                              >> Sugar Labs<br>
                              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
                              >>
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project
                              (not a laptop project!)<br>
                              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
                              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
                              ><br>
                              ><br>
                              ><br>
                              ><br>
                              >
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              > IAEP -- It's An Education Project
                              (not a laptop project!)<br>
                              > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org"
                                target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
                              > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
                              ><br>
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