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Hi, Gonzalo<br>
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My sense is that a lot of the work in the past seven years has been
in keeping Sugar up to date with <br>
the upstream system - getting Sugar as a desktop in Fedora was a
major effort. As you point out, this effort <br>
was essential. Moving to first-class support for
html5/css/javascript is an important step.<br>
<br>
Adding the Gnome Desktop has been very helpful in selling educators
that the XO is an effective lead-in to their Windows Office oriented
secondary <br>
school curriculum. There have been many valuable additions to the
library of Sugar Activities. <br>
<br>
I just think we should ask more often - what will this change do to
improve the educational outcomes of primary school children? If we
mount a major effort to rewrite Sugar in Python 3 - what is the
delivered benefit to the user? If we rewrite Turtle Blocks in
html5/css3/javascript, how have we improved its capabilities in the
classroom? If we abandon etoys to maintain compatibility with
Fedora, what has the end-user gained? Would a GSOC effort be better
devoted to moving from Scratch 1 to Scratch 2 than rewriting
imageviewer?<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/03/2015 08:41 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAJ+iPVS17dJkZ_zpFr9fE0Qv1ETM+pzoY+rhDJGYx0smxOKtWA@mail.gmail.com"
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">>This
begs the question, what has changed between Sugar 0.82 and 0.104<br>
>that significantly improves the value of the XO in primary
school<br>
>education in the Give 1 world?<br>
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<div>Ouch. Really? We worked for 5 years for nothing?</div>
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