<div dir="ltr">I've worked with the project for some time, as a developer, teacher, and teacher-trainer.<div><br></div><div>There have been triumphs and setbacks in the past, but I can't escape this observation: when people have a choice, they choose not to use Sugar. For many schools, they have what was donated and there is no choice. When OLPC started, Android was an independent concept for a feature phone and not a choice for anyone. But if members of our community are talking about a major project in today's world, examine why the wider world isn't using Sugar at the same level that they adopt other edu-tech, like Scratch. Time and time again, local teachers are doing everything we ask, and our true limit is the technology and UX.</div><div><br></div><div>As a developer, I have lost track of which of my activities might run on modern Sugar. I've seen simple UIs and browser-based activities stop working, not because of shaky code, but because dropdown menus got deprecated, or browser embedding was switched out with a different library. There are reasons behind these code changes, like touch-enabled UI, but were these reasons so real? At the end of all this continuing development, when I use an XO-1 in Haiti, I see the same Sugar that we used in 2011, but with fewer working activities.</div><div><br></div><div>I am interested in the future of Sugar in the same way that I'm interested in the future of television. The next big thing is not a revision of the old, but something very new, something more attuned to the web and open source ecosystem as it exists today.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Nick Doiron</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM, James Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote:<br>
> Here's a table Martin Dluhos generated of the start-up times on<br>
> XO-1s for different OS versions. It influenced our decision-making<br>
> in Haiti (we have a customized version of 12.1.0); I don't know<br>
> what they decided in Nepal, where he was based. <br>
><br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As_jQJX0Me6XdDI2clFpX1FFRHhKMHVFZGkyakdST2c&usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As_jQJX0Me6XdDI2clFpX1FFRHhKMHVFZGkyakdST2c&usp=sharing</a><br>
<br>
</span>No, that table was prepared by Gonzalo Odiard in July 2013, and<br>
discussed on devel@ at the time, and sugar-devel@ mailing list in<br>
November 2013.<br>
<br>
The results are all because of memory contention, and the fixes are to<br>
either:<br>
<br>
1. run the operating system from SD card, (which releases a lot of<br>
memory), or<br>
<br>
2. add swap partition on SD card, (which moves little used memory to<br>
the card).<br>
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