<div>Is 3D support for the BBB not planned/possible? I know we don't require it at the moment but it would be nice to have in the future (and it *might* speed up things even with the current software...).</div> On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'dwnarvaez@gmail.com')">dwnarvaez@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Do you know what's the status of graphics with the BeagleBone Black? Sugar on the BBB should work fine with the modesetting driver OOTB (I've still got some kernel bits to do in Fedora, 3.12 should be much better) as it doesn't need 3D. The i.MX6 devices (WandBard, Utilite, CuBox-i etc) should have accelerated graphics in the F-21 time frame. Peter > On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'dwnarvaez@gmail.com')">dwnarvaez@gmail.com</a>> >> wrote: >> > On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'pbrobinson@gmail.com')">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting >> >> marketing effect but the result would be truly terrible as it would be >> >> essentially unusable and have a terrible experience. >> > >> > >> > Can you elaborate on why you think it would be a terrible experience on >> > the >> > Raspberry Pi? I never tested it there, I was just hoping it could be a >> > nice >> > target... >> >> It's generally not particularly fast and has a number of HW problems, >> as a "look at how cool we are" I wouldn't be chosing the RPi to run >> sugar on Android, even on Linux the experience isn't great. >> >> >> There are a >> >> number of other ARM devices that sugar runs beautifully on though. >> > >> > >> > It would also be interesting to know more about these devices. With OLPC >> > going the Android way, I wish there was at least one popular enough >> > device >> > on which we could provide a really good experience (with our scarce >> > resources). >> >> Well Fedora produces SoaS on ARM images that will run on any of the >> ARM platforms Fedora supports. I would be looking at BeagleBone Black >> [1] (improvements still needed, should be much better soon), Wandboard >> [2], Utilite [3] (little brother to the TrimSlice) or the CuBox-i [4]. >> The last of which has the cheapest model at $45 in a case and will be >> much faster, we should have OOTB graphics for the last 3 devices (all >> based on the i.MX6) in Fedora 21 (maybe later in the F-20 cycle) and >> the experience will be much better for little to no price increase >> over the RPi. >> >> [1] <a href="http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone%20Black" target="_blank">http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone%20Black</a> >> [2] <a href="http://www.wandboard.org/" target="_blank">http://www.wandboard.org/</a> >> [3] <a href="http://utilite-computer.com/" target="_blank">http://utilite-computer.com/</a> >> [4] <a href="http://cubox-i.com/table/" target="_blank">http://cubox-i.com/table/</a> > > > > -- > Daniel Narvaez > </blockquote> -- Daniel Narvaez