Spelling correction:<div>You can put the lesson on a USB stick and it will run on any Mac, PC or Linux box, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Steve Thomas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sthomas1@gosargon.com" target="_blank">sthomas1@gosargon.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Alan,<div><br></div><div>So to quote your namesake "<b style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">A change in perspective is worth 80 IQ points."</b></div>
<div>So let me see if I can change your perspective on Etoys. I just created a simple lesson in Etoys such as you described in about 10-15 minutes, most of that time was spent trying to find a good open source image of the eye (I used the one from WIkipedia which you may want to look at if you would like to take the Quiz I just developed).</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://youtu.be/mqbnJG1dgkA" target="_blank">Here is the You Tube video of why Etoys rocks and how</a> </div><div><br></div><div>I created the quiz with 5 "lines of code" an image, a holder and two text objects. You can put the lesson on a USB stuck and it will run on any Mac, PC and Linux, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms. No libraries to load or special drivers needed. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Now of course perhaps this could be done quicker or more cost effectively in python :D</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Stephen</div><div><br></div><div>Below is a more full quote from Alan on IQ:</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><span style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif">Q - What if you had an "IQ" of 500, but were born in 10,000 BC. You would not be able to make a lot of progress. For example, Leonardo was very smart but couldn't come up with the engines his vehicle designs needed in order to work -- he was born in the wrong century for what he wanted to do.</span></div>
<div><br style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif"></div><div><span style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif">Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was able to combine engineering and production inventions to make millions of inexpensive automobiles.</span></div>
<div><br style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif"></div><div><span style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif">Outlook - what made Henry Ford powerful (and most other things today) was an enormous change in Outlook (you called it a paradigm shift) which we can symbolize by invoking Newton.</span></div>
<div><br style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif"></div><div><span style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif">"Knowledge is Silver, but Outlook is Gold" (IQ is Lead ... because most worthwhile problems we want to work on and solve are beyond mere IQ)</span></div>
<div><br style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif"></div><div><span style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif">In other words, most human cultures accumulate and use a lot of knowledge (this is what a culture is all about) that is used to survive, to accommodate to the environment and even sometimes thrive. But the knowledge of a traditional society is very different from that of a feudal society which in turn is very different from a technological scientifically based society.</span></div>
<div><br style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif"></div><div><span style="line-height:16.899999618530273px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,serif">The bug most people have about schools (including many who set up schools) is the idea that they are there to teach knowledge. (Not a bad secondary goal, but it's a very bad idea for it to be the main goal.) Montessori was an early voice who pointed out that the main purpose of schooling (especially early schooling) was to help students learn and deeply internalize the most powerful outlooks that have been discovered/invented by humans. She observed that otherwise children wind up living in the 20th century but with a 10th century (or much earlier) outlook ...</span></div>
</blockquote><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alanjas@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alanjas@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) <div><br></div><div>I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: "I know the Eye" and use a</div>
<div>similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy)</div><div><br></div><div>External: (muscleds, etc)</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AAAAAAAAAGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg" target="_blank">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AAAAAAAAAGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>And internal:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg</a></div><div><br></div>
<div>The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license).</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div><div><div></div><hr>Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500<br>
From: <a href="mailto:sthomas1@gosargon.com" target="_blank">sthomas1@gosargon.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:andrycaa@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrycaa@gmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:olpc-open@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-open@lists.laptop.org</a>; <a href="mailto:alanjas@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alanjas@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>; <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity</div><div><div><br><br>Alan,<div><br></div><div>If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a "more robust case".</div>
<div><br></div><div>Stephen<br><br><div>On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com" target="_blank">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>> From: <a href="mailto:andrycaa@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrycaa@gmail.com</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:olpc-open@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-open@lists.laptop.org</a><br>
> Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity<br>
><br>
> Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine<br>
> if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for<br>
> a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there<br>
> was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye<br>
> model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be<br>
> anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit.<br>
><br>
> My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some<br>
> interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more<br>
> deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources<br>
> behind this.<br>
><br>
> Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in<br>
> the right direction?<br>
<br>
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</div>I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages.<br>
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<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening</a><br>
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<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity</a><br>
<br>
cjl<br>
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