<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><span style="font-size: 12pt;">> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:43:31 -0500</span><br><div>> From: walter.bender@gmail.com<br>> To: yamaplos@gmail.com<br>> CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; lists@dcorking.com<br>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Sugarized binaries? was Re: users doing python in XOs<br>> <br>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Yama Ploskonka <yamaplos@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Hi David, thanks<br>> ><br>> > Texas Instrument's MSP430 Launchpad. at $4.30 including shipping, it's<br>> > probably the most affordable, bang-for-the-buck MCU/experimentation board<br>> > combo ever. Etc., no need to go into a full blown advertisement :-)<br>> ><br>> > I have managed, with a few coughs and starts, to run it in several<br>> > iterations of OLPC OS, using plain old XO-1 units.<br>> > http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OLPC_MSP430_Install (due for some<br>> > code revision)<br>> ><br>> > The /sudo/ problem we are facing is specific to Uruguay, where their<br>> > benevolent administrators have blocked several features on the XOs OS<br>> ><br>> > I don't do Windows, thank you very much. (though UY is painting itself in<br>> > the corner on that one also, by embracing NXT)<br>> <br>> FWIW, there is an NXT plugin for Turtle Art. No need to use Windows.</div><div><br></div><div>An example:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8HRbDLO7LM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8HRbDLO7LM</a></div><div><br></div><div>One button to up, one to down...</div><div><br></div><div>Programmed in TurtleBlocks + Plugin Lego NxT</div><div><br><br>> > Personally, I am more for the command line.<br>> > My reasoning is that those, very few, able to take full benefit of working<br>> > with microcontrollers are also the ones who can grock command line no<br>> > problem, sort of a correlation between their personal attributes and<br>> > potentials. More importantly, text based coding is Real World, and<br>> > definitely not for everybody.<br>> > I see that working for/with them is important, as it is those few the ones<br>> > who might have the biggest individual impact in nation building, while their<br>> > special and greater needs dismissed and potential for brilliance often lost<br>> > in the name of Procrustean egalitarianism (standard Yamarant).<br>> ><br>> > Still, I am enormously impressed by things like this color follower, that<br>> > uses the XO camera and processes data in Tortugarte, then directs the<br>> > motors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nnc9Rn9GbY<br>> ><br>> > I see there is room for tile-based stuff, though for now there are deeper<br>> > issues I have not yet solved...<br>> ><br>> > Thank you!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 12/03/2012 02:35 PM, David Corking wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> Yama: Which model of microcontroller will you use? Which<br>> >> programmer/connector will you use?<br>> >><br>> >> Yes, I think your mspdebug experience might be a 'user' and 'group'<br>> >> thing on the USB device, but it might be a kernel driver, which<br>> >> normally needs root access.<br>> >><br>> >> If you use Windows on your netbooks one nice way to install the GNU<br>> >> toolchain to compile C programs is Red Hat's cygwin project:<br>> >> http://cygwin.com/<br>> >><br>> >> David<br>> >><br>> >> p.s. Have you seen Physical Etoys? It is free tile scripting for<br>> >> microcontrollers, though I don't think an XO bundle has been made. Low<br>> >> ceiling, but interesting.<br>> >> http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/projects/physical-etoys/<br>> >> Also Squeakbot and PhidgetLab<br>> >> http://www.planete-sciences.org/robot/boiteabots/<br>> >> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/phidgetlab/index.html<br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> Walter Bender<br>> Sugar Labs<br>> http://www.sugarlabs.org<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep<br></div> </div></body> </html>