<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> yes sir, 4 is a gazillion-times increase on the statu quo ante! :-) I have been reflecting on how much world open source owes to the subsidies given by European and US university research programs and the ensuing ecosystem of paid grad students and those who want to grow up to become such. And uni professors that get paid couple hundred grand per year or more. Yes, it would seem that to do good *scalably* you do need lots of available time, and someone has to pay for that. Otherwise you're a quijote - we have at least Sebastian and Laura... Now, if what we call "education" would value and recognize contribution to open source - if having a track record in Communities did give you extra points... If it gave points to the "meritos" for the teachers (instead of getting them in trouble for being "different") Otherwise, as I found out in this "diplomado de software libre" that was "taught" in Bolivia, it turns out you're an expert in software libre if you know the history of open source, its advantages, etc. It didn't have a single "taller" that would be /contributing/ to open source, /living/ it. With 1/2 million XOs in Uruguay, you would expect the Wikipedia articles in UY to be really advanced. Not quite, but better than I thought. Though users seem to have gone down, while they have grown in Pero <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryBreakdown.htm">http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryBreakdown.htm</a> Let's not forget the "no te metás", and "el clavo que levanta la cabeza recibe martillo". Quite a difference from the <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club</a> , <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech_Model_Railroad_Club">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech_Model_Railroad_Club</a> In a country that does not allow its kids to use sudo, well, very hard to nation build... That simple thing is symptomatic of the view that the Powers That Be have of those who want to do something different than the officially mandated, one-size-fits-all construct***sm. Things might change. They better. I have high hopes for you guys. Especially that you be hundreds, and thousands, very soon! Have you seen this? <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOLOLrUBRBY&noredirect=1">Self-taught African Teen Wows M.I.T. - YouTube</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71c95-LoBok">14-Year-old is America's Top Young Scientist: Her Solar-Powered Jug Purifies Water - YouTube</a> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2012 07:52 PM, S. Daniel Francis wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAAN6txZLJXQ72FyL6VrrkaePY5-+PSAgxSVe41Hg+6aH9x1hbg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi Yama, 2012/11/28 Yama Ploskonka <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com"><yamaplos@gmail.com></a>: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">why not more? why not teachers, hundreds of them? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> "Few is better then Nothing" Projecting a possible situation: If you are a student, you must study and you have the responsibility to conserve your qualifications. If you are teacher, you work and you get money teaching a school program, not contributing to Sugar. Now, I think: If you like history, you are good writing and the author of your history book makes a new edition every year, you may contact the author and contribute to the next edition. But if not; you may wait the content come to you without any interest in participate in its creation and then read it or only take a look at the cover and the table of contents. Cheers, Daniel. </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>