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But for this last one, I will avoid crossposting on this subject
unless something major happens (follow the Hackaday thread for
more,) your concern for what "teacherless" might mean was addressed
there this morning<br>
<br>
"Just like with Sesame Street, The only self learning here is a
child deciding to turn on an appliance. From there it's
instructors(Human no AI here) doing the teaching. Just as in as in
Sesame Street, and in bring & mortar class rooms the teachers
are required to keep the lessons engaging to keep the kids wanting
to attend class. Not that I'm saying this can't have value in
helping disadvantaged persons, but it really is going to depend on
many creative long distant teacher as much it will the kids. To hack
the camera the kids had to know or figure out in some manner there
was a camera available that could be made to function. Reads to me
like that was a situation was set up so the kids could find a route
to get the camera working. Part of the research?"<br>
<br>
As to reports from former research, there are blogs around, of all
kinds, but I have found little that would offer objective data on
*what* activity is being used how much, etc.<br>
<br>
There has also been research in the US, also scant data.<br>
<br>
My own research is worst... :-(<br>
I should write, if I can't of success, at least about the several
shades of failure I have met. Boy, did I...<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/01/2012 02:10 AM, Jerry wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:E58709F7-3284-4B5C-A1F0-055BF66FB379@gmail.com"
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<div>I'm not sure why researching on kids in a foreign country is
a good thing.</div>
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<div>One of the criticisms of OLPC is that it's research on other
populations.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And it could keep some people/ countries from adopting XOs</div>
<div><br>
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<div>What ever happened to the Africa summer deployments? I never
got much information back about it. The ClassActs book sprint
didn't include it...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Teacherless is interesting as self directed is pretty much
constructionist, no? ( I'm not an education theorist, btw)<br>
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<div>Please excuse the typing, very small keyboard...
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On Oct 31, 2012, at 22:08, Mike Lee <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:curiouslee@gmail.com">curiouslee@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Some other tidbits from my notes:
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1) The Motorola Xoom WiFi laptop was passed around during
the talk and I made some photos of the app drawer screens:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157631821883809/with/8109891926/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157631821883809/with/8109891926/</a></p>
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Helvetica">
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<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica">2) The use of the impressive Funf framework
from the MIT Media Lab was described where software probes
were activated in the Android operating system to collect
sensor and system data.</p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://funf.org/">http://funf.org/</a></p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica">3) The work of Dr. Maryanne Wolf of Harvard was
mentioned many times. I have bookmarked her comprehensive
lecture on YouTube.</p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica">The Science of the Reading Brain</p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ephYMS16Q&feature=g-crec-f">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ephYMS16Q&feature=g-crec-f</a></p>
<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ySESQ5Oc4&feature=g-crec-f">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ySESQ5Oc4&feature=g-crec-f</a></p>
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<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px
Helvetica">Mike</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM,
Yama Ploskonka <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com" target="_blank">yamaplos@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> From a research
standpoint, this decision by the Ethiopian gov is
great!<br>
Doing this in English avoids all sort of "noise" from
family, etc., who might "help" outside of the
research.<br>
In the back of my brain I recall someone doing some
research here using Klingon, for this very reason.<br>
<br>
The half-full glass is in the Ethiopian kids gaining
some English, which eventually will be required to do
as they continue their schooling. I can't see a
similar advantage for Klingon, though :-)
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>On 10/31/2012 08:29 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Folks,</div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">Actually,
C.Scott did post the videos (it is in 2
parts) and the accompanying slides on his
blog at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cananian.livejournal.com/67703.html"
target="_blank">http://cananian.livejournal.com/67703.html</a> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">For anyone
who missed it, it is worth the time (60-</span><span
style="font-size:10pt">90 min?) to watch
it.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">As you will
see, it is a "pre-pilot" sort of a "proof
of concept" project. The children did not
learn to </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">read, but
55% did show that they were "pre-literate"
at the end of a year based on getting
12/15 </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">correct on a
letter recognition test. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">One huge
obstacle to their learning to read is
that, at the request </span><span
style="font-size:10pt">of the Ethiopian
government, the </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">lessons are
in English. The children speak only
Amharic. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">Long ago,
when I was taking classes for </span><span
style="font-size:10pt">ESL certification,
we were taught that children should be </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">taught to
read in their home language </span><span
style="font-size:10pt">first. The decoding
skills transfer if it is an alphabetic
language </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">and probably
other alphabets but </span><span
style="font-size:10pt">not completely true
for a </span><span style="font-size:10pt">character
based language such as Chinese. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">That is
probably why the </span><span
style="font-size:10pt">Chinese government
invented the phonetic pinyin system.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">Caryl</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">BTW...
C.Scott and Chris describe the theory and
methods behind the project and data. It is
a very well</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt">designed
study that meets all of the requirements
for good academic research. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<hr>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com"
target="_blank">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cjb@laptop.org"
target="_blank">cjb@laptop.org</a>; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:curiouslee@gmail.com"
target="_blank">curiouslee@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:04:15 -0700<br>
CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org"
target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com"
target="_blank">yamaplos@gmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] OLPC tablets and Nell
in the wild?<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr"> Here! Here! Cheers for
Chris Ball and C. Scott Ananian (a
brand-new Daddy) who were our "house
mates" at Casa Sarandi in Montevideo.
<div>Two great guys and supporters of
Sugar Labs and OLPC in every way.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Caryl<br>
<br>
<div>> From: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cjb@laptop.org"
target="_blank">cjb@laptop.org</a><br>
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:curiouslee@gmail.com"
target="_blank">curiouslee@gmail.com</a><br>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:41:32
-0400<br>
> CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com"
target="_blank">yamaplos@gmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] OLPC
tablets and Nell in the wild?<br>
> <br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Oct 31 2012, Mike Lee
wrote:<br>
> > That experiment did not
involve anyone from Sugar Labs or
the<br>
> > community. The article is
based on an education panel at
EmTech 2012<br>
> > that, for some reason, has
not been posted as video yet. Check<br>
> > here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www2.technologyreview.com/emtech/12/"
target="_blank">http://www2.technologyreview.com/emtech/12/</a><br>
> > <br>
> > But Matt Keller and the
OLPC Association team who ran the
project went<br>
> > into great detail in their
talks at the OLPC SF Summit over a
week<br>
> > ago. The Livestream on the
subject has been archived and is
viewable<br>
> > at the these links:<br>
> <br>
> A minor point: I consider
myself part of the Sugar Labs
community<br>
> and expect that C. Scott does
also; maybe others from the team
too.<br>
> <br>
> - Chris.<br>
> -- <br>
> Chris Ball <a
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target="_blank"><cjb@laptop.org></a>
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> One Laptop Per Child<br>
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