<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Folks,</div><div><br></div><div>Some of us have been discussing how we can incorporate work with sensors into the SF Summit and Sugar Camp. The thread of our discussion is below for your perusal. There are lots of good links there. </div><div><br></div><div>Now, we need to expand our discussion to try to include all who might be interested in making and learning to use sensors with their XOs for Science Education (STEM, SET, SCIB, etc). Here is a summary of what we have talked about.</div><div><br></div><div>Tony Anderson and I both feel a need to be able to use sensors for science experiments/lessons with projects we are working with. We envision some time in SF devoted to our own maker/hacker space type activity where everyone interested could make and test sensors and come up with ideas for using them with students. Lesson ideas could be published on one of the wikis. We might also be able to make video tutorials on how to make them.</div><div><br></div><div>Nick Doiron will only be there for the weekend, but could get us started on them, perhaps on Friday evening. We would like to find others who will be staying into the Sugar Camp time who could help us. Volunteers anyone??? Or maybe we could build them all Friday evening after the reception and then play with them during Sugar Camp??? Ideas anyone?</div><div><br></div><div>We would need to get all the parts ahead of time. I can pick them up at a large electronics store (<a href="http://www.allelectronics.com">http://www.allelectronics.com</a>) here in SoCal sometime this week. To do this I would need a "shopping list." I notice that the requirements for some of the sensors vary with the model of XO they will be used with. I will need someone to work with me on this list to make sure I get everything we will need.<b> </b>Volunteers anyone???</div><div><b><br></b></div><div>I would also need to know who will be interested in doing this so I can get the supplies for everyone who will need them. It could be that some folks would only be able to participate on the weekend but would like to take "kits" home with them to finish later. I will fund the purchase and you all can reimburse me.</div><div><br></div><div>Would you like to come and "play" with us? Please send your name and what sensors you might be interested in building and testing. The obvious ones seem to be temperature and light, but it should reasonable to add one or 2 more. Here are a few ideas of the possibilities. If you know of others, please share!</div><div><br></div><div>References: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/guzmantrinidad?feature=watch">http://www.youtube.com/user/guzmantrinidad?feature=watch</a> <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Sensors">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Sensors</a><br><br>Hi Caryl,</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Does someone in SF have a soldering iron, solder, and flux or whatever we would need???</div><div><br></div><div>_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________<br><div>Previous thread follows: </div><div>I would also suggest moving this discussion to the OLPC-SF list and/or IAEP so we can get more traction and feedback for it.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Christoph<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote"> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Caryl Bigenho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div dir="ltr"> Hi Again....<div><br></div><div>Robots are great and I certainly am looking forward to that workshop! But sensors are another area of interest that, in the long run, is probably more feasible as the costs of making sensors is probably a lot less than the cost of the parts to make a robot. Also, the subject areas they would be used for<span style="font-size:10pt">, Science vs Computer Science,</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> are distinct and both important. In other words, wouldn't it be wonderful to do both? </span></div> <div><div><br></div><div>So, maybe we could get Nick to start us on Friday evening and then someone else to "mentor" us during Sugar Camp? Wouldn't it be great to choose 3-4 critical sensors (e.g. light, temp, & ???) to work on. Make them. Make tutorial videos as we work. Learn to use them with an XO (more videos) and compile a list of simple hands-on experiments relating to basic science curriculum that teachers/students can use? Sound is already there... I can think of a number of great experiments with sound using Measure. We can do the same with other sensors.</div> <div><br></div><div>We really need someone to help us with the software to make these things work, whether it is Measure or Turtle Blocks. I wonder which one Trinidad Guzman uses?</div><div><br></div><div>Who could oversee our work M-W? I wish Alex K would be available as he has a lot of hacker/maker space experience but he probably has to work. Maybe we should put this discussion on the list and see who else might be interested.</div> <div><br></div><div>Hopefully we can get this rolling soon so I can hunt up the parts we will need to make the sensors. There must be a huge electronics store somewhere around SoCal where I can get them.</div><div><br></div> <div>Caryl<br><br><div><div></div>> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:43:39 -0400<br>> From: <a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a><br> > CC: <a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:christoph.derndorfer@gmail.com">christoph.derndorfer@gmail.com</a>; nickd@CodeForAmerica.org<div> <div class="h5"><br>> Subject: Re: Sensors at Sugar Camp<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> By all means. I am receiving emails regularly from POTUS. I am sure he <br>> believes OLPC is code for America.<br>> <br> > Tony<br>> <br>> <br>> On 10/07/2012 10:37 AM, Adam Holt wrote:<br>> > Sadly Nick (cc'd) just discovered he has to leave Monday morning back to<br>> > his Code for America internship outside Atlanta.<br> > ><br>> > But starting sensor work with Nick Friday Oct 19 might make sense ??<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 10/7/2012 9:56 AM, Tony Anderson wrote:<br>> >> Hi,<br>> >><br>> >> According to the SF Summit schedule, the session in the technology<br> > >> track on Sunday at 3:15<br>> >> (<a href="http://www.olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2012/sessions/robots-and-the-xo" target="_blank">http://www.olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2012/sessions/robots-and-the-xo</a>)<br> > >> will demonstrate building a Butia robot!<br>> >><br>> >> I am not sure how the Sugar Camp will be organized, but it would<br>> >> certainly be nice to have a follow-up on this plus the sensors. One of<br> > >> the goals of the Butia project is to provide a simple way to use<br>> >> sensors to help the 'driver' control the robot.<br>> >><br>> >> yours,<br>> >><br>> >> Tony<br> > ><br>> > Subject: Re: Sensors at Sugar Camp<br>> > Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:41:30 -0400<br>> > From: Tony Anderson <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>><br> > > To: Caryl Bigenho <<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>><br>> > CC: sameer verma <<a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>>, Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a>>,<br> > > Christoph Derndorfer <<a href="mailto:christoph.derndorfer@gmail.com">christoph.derndorfer@gmail.com</a>><br>> ><br>> > Hi,<br>> ><br>> > I am very interested in the sensors because I believe science is the<br> > > weakest subject on the XOs at Saint Jacob. Perhaps even more important<br>> > is the science in Rwanda is very test oriented. The students do not<br>> > experience real scientific investigation.<br>> ><br> > > However, I am a little frustrated that the exceptional work done in<br>> > Uruguay by the Butia project is effectively being ignored by the community.<br>> ><br>> > <a href="mailto:aaguirre@fing.edu.uy">aaguirre@fing.edu.uy</a> reported this in an email I forwarded to you on<br> > > Sept 29:<br>> ><br>> > You could find some tutorials in<br>> > <a href="http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Construcci%C3%B3n_Buti%C3%A1_V1.8" target="_blank">http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Construcci%C3%B3n_Buti%C3%A1_V1.8</a><br> > ><br>> > in particular the PCB file for kicad (an open source eda software is<br>> > in our git :<br>> > git clone git://<a href="http://git.code.sf.net/p/usb4all/code" target="_blank">git.code.sf.net/p/usb4all/code</a> usb4all-code<br> > ><br>> > Some days ago, we received a news that make us very happy, a school<br>> > have managed to build they own butia based robot from the scratch and<br>> > they documented all the process and shared it. Please see:<br> > > <a href="http://www.liceocarmendurazno.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://www.liceocarmendurazno.blogspot.com/</a><br>> > In particular this tutorial is very good!:<br>> > <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzz_fLM2Rpk&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzz_fLM2Rpk&feature=player_embedded</a> and<br> > > is part of our objective as project. And I think is the difference of<br>> > a hardware libre project and a open hardware project.<br>> ><br>> > Tony<br>> ><br>> >> On 10/07/2012 02:10 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:<br> > >>> Hi Guys,<br>> >>><br>> >>> Ed and I are signed up to stay through Wednesday so we can participate<br>> >>> in Sugar Camp. We were hoping that there would be someone doing some<br> > >>> hands-on stuff with sensors... making, testing, figuring out lessons<br>> >>> they would be suitable for etc. So far I don't see anyone doing anything<br>> >>> with this. Will Nick D be there? He is very good with this stuff. If<br> > >>> there will be someone there and they send me a list of stuff to get to<br>> >>> put together some kits for some of the sensors, I'll see if I can buy<br>> >>> the parts here in SoCal. Of course, the TSA may give me a hassle when<br> > >>> they see it in my luggage, but.... I could put together about 10-12<br>> >>> kits for each and folks can re-emburse me there.<br>> >>><br>> >>> I really want this to happen! I have a young science teacher in Montana<br> > >>> waiting to try some of these. I have a possible new volunteer (another<br>> >>> retired teacher) who may be interested in testing and helping find ways<br>> >>> to use them. And, this is one area where Ed (a ham radio aficionado)<br> > >>> would like to get involved (he is also good with a soldering iron).<br>> >>><br>> >>> So what we need to make this happen is:<br>> >>><br>> >>> 1) Someone who knows how to make the sensors to help with<br> > >>> a) Making a list of supplies for 3 or 4 different sensors for me<br>> >>> to get<br>> >>> b) Lead us in hands-on workshops to make and learn to use the<br>> >>> sensors<br> > >>><br>> >>> 2) Someone (could be the same person, or maybe Walter) to show us how to<br>> >>> use Turtle Blocks or Measure to gather data with the sensors.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Is there any hope of this happening? If the expert in items 1 and 2<br> > >>> doesn't want to be in charge, I'll take the responsibility for it...<br>> >>> they can just supply the expertise. I can get the supplies and help<br>> >>> compile the lesson ideas we come up with for using what we make.<br> > >>><br>> >>> Caryl<br>> >>><br>> >>> P.S. I think Tony A said he was interested in sensors too.<br>> >><br>> ><br>> <br></div></div></div></div></div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Christoph Derndorfer<div><br></div><div><div>volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [<a href="http://www.olpc.at/" target="_blank">www.olpc.at</a>]<br><div>editor, OLPC News [<a href="http://www.olpcnews.com/" target="_blank">www.olpcnews.com</a>]<br> contributor, TechnikBasteln [<a href="http://www.technikbasteln.net/" target="_blank">www.technikbasteln.net</a>]</div></div><div><br></div><div>e-mail: <a href="mailto:christoph@derndorfer.eu">christoph@derndorfer.eu</a></div> <div><br></div></div><br> </div></div> </div></div> </div></body> </html>