<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> worse, Paolo. To call it as it *is* is really not welcome in the world of pink glasses. evidence of Sugar success: <blockquote> *using Sugar* people (of all ages) are, massively, part of a new culture of learning and communication </blockquote> <blockquote> fact: some anecdotes here and there, very sweet each one, but not even an iceberg's tip to the massive investment made. VERY scant objective data - all of it demonstrating it's not happening, except in a handful of cases. </blockquote> Interestingly, besides a few silly ones here and there (I count myself as one, at least partially regarding the MSP430 microprocessors), those who *DO* stuff around Sugar/XO do it using some other platform, be it a PC, Mac, or by now a handheld. The XO is seen at best as strictly school-stuff, if not a toy to be dismissed. Sad. To see the good side, *at least* something is still getting done... A funny-peculiar-tragic thing is that many nice folks believe themselves to be defenders of Science and Truth, but refuse to accept facts and evidence, or, in the case of this experiment, the substantial *lack* of data, and seem quite happy and satisfied with hearsay, opinion, well-wishes, ideology, a-priorisms, and social-science numbers, to pretend there is some success *they* can see but cannot demonstrate factually - and are silent or pretend surprise when *facts* are requested. This is important because real success (a few small attempts here and there) is not being recognized and valued as such, since administrators seem happy to have fake success and call it mission accomplished. Thus real success is not replicated or encouraged, and the whole XO/Sugar thing just keeps growing as more of the same: Formal Education in one-size-fits-all warehouses. Proven inefficient and destructive of human potential in many ways, now in Digital format, so we call it progress. <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/23/2012 06:54 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nanonano@mediagala.com">nanonano@mediagala.com</a> wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:50B01AAC.9020006@mediagala.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> >On 23/09/2012 04:16 p.m., Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez wrote: > ...when I was in primary school, no teacher was concerned with explaining how to use my XO >... And when I started the high school was the same, no teacher was interested in the XO, except Mr. Flavio Danesse ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been saying the same things for years, but people take me as a pessimist or worse. Paolo Benini <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>