<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Steve Thomas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sthomas1@gosargon.com" target="_blank">sthomas1@gosargon.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div>On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Tony Anderson <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> The Khan Academy web site (<a href="http://www.khanacademy.org/" target="_blank">http://www.khanacademy.org/</a>) is announcing today<br>
> a 'playlist' on computer science. It appears to be an introduction to<br>
> programming based on Python!<br>
<br>
</div>The funny thing is that many of the examples are also in the Turtle<br>
Art examples list :)<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Yes and also in Etoys, Scratch, etc.</div><div><br></div><div><img src=""> </div>
<div><font size="4">But they have one thing you haven't got ...</font></div><div><br></div><div>Okay more than one:</div><div><ul><li>A nice set of short videos to walk you through using these tools to learn/introduce/explain the concepts</li>
</ul></div></div></blockquote><div>Agreed. Be nice to have some more videos.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><ul>
<li>A tool to let you try to solve a problem and give you feedback as to whether you got it right or wrong</li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div>Isn't that exactly what TurltleArt, Etoys and Scratch are: tools that give you feedback? <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><ul><li>Hints when you don't get the answer</li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div>
Turtle Confusion and Turtle Amazonas have hints. But in general, we don't do this. In part, because in general, we don't present problems in that have explicit answers.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><ul><li>Social Network tools so a group of people can "learn together" and support "collaboritve floundering" (as mentioned by Mark Guzdial <a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#inbox/1392a45cbc33615f" target="_blank">here</a>)<br>
</li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div>When you "share" Turtle Art, you can share code snippets, outputs, chats, etc. But it is a peer-to-peer collaboration.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</li></ul><div><br></div></div><div>The above might make good GSoC projects, sort of a Udacity using the excellent tools to learn with in Sugar.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>For sure!! <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Stephen</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Walter Bender<br>Sugar Labs<br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br><br>