<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 19:51:48 +0000<br>> From: alsroot@sugarlabs.org<br>> To: cbigenho@hotmail.com<br>> CC: olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org; bkuhn@sfconservancy.org; tony@sfconservancy.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> Subject: Re: [SLOBS] [Sur] "New Co" / Nueva Empresa<br>> <br>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:54:34AM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote:<br>> > <br>> > Hi...<br>> ><br>> > At the olpcSF meeting last October some of us met informally and discussed<br>> > the need for exactly what you are suggesting: an organization that would<br>> > act as an "umbrella" for groups that wanted to fund small deployments and<br>> > make other contributions to the OLPC, Sugar, and open source software in<br>> > education (OSSIE).<br>> ><br>> > As far as I know, nothing has been done to implement this idea yet. Some<br>> > of the suggestions we had were:<br>> ><br>> > * It should be a completely separate entity from OLPC and Sugar Labs to<br>> > insure independence.<br>> <br>> In fact, Sugar Labs was for me exactly such "umbrella" (pure community<br>> based organization to coordinate not only Sugar development but also any<br>> Sugar learning platform related work "in the field") from the beginning.<br>> So, being independent from Sugar Labs sounds for me like being<br>> independent from the community :).</div><div><br></div><div>Exactly... independent of all of the politics! It would also allow for the inclusion of other OSSIE projects folks might want to undertake. <br>> <br>> Anyway, if I got Bradley Kuhn right, right now, it is rather impossible<br>> to proceed operations like funding local mini/micro deployments from<br>> Sugar Labs level. So, it should be new organization in any case.<br>> <br>> > * It should file as a registered 501c3 NGO that could<br>> > act as an umbrella organization for the local groups that are meeting and<br>> > raising funds for their deployments and other OLPC/Sugar Related activities.<br>> > In addition to the NGO status, they could carry liability insurance so local<br>> > groups under the "umbrella" would be able to qualify for free meeting space<br>> > as a non-profit.<br>> <br>> I'm not confident in such cases, but will it be possible to operate on<br>> behalf of 501c3 NGO out of USA? Actually, the one of purposes to raise<br>> this question in SLOBs was the fact that a group of people (including<br>> me) is trying to process exactly such mini/micro (at least from the beginning)<br>> deployment in Peru.</div><div><br></div><div>Each country has its own rules. An NGO in the USA could raise fund in the USA and for projects headquartered here, but the actual project could be deployed anywhere. Some of the mini-deployments I have mentored have done exactly this. <br>> <br>> > * The name that we used for the group was "Bumblebees." One reason for choosing<br>> > that was it in no way indicates relation to OLPC or Sugar Labs.<br>> ><br>> > We didn't keep a list of who was there, but I do remember SJ, Craig Perue,<br>> > and I think Mark Battley being there. They can probably fill you in with other info. <br>> > It would be really helpful to local groups if this could happen. For olpc-SoCal,<br>> > here in Southern California, it would allow us and other groups like ours to get<br>> > free meeting space (insurance and NGO status required), to hold events like a<br>> > Scratch Day and similar, and to raise funds for small deployments.<br>> ><br>> > Caryl<br>> <br>> Did you consider joining existing crowdfunding efforts (I assume there<br>> should be kickstarter like sites that are related to edu) instead of <br style="text-indent: 0px !important; "> > creating new GNO? If it is not trivial to handle donations worldwide, it<br>> might be useful to reuse already done work.</div><div><br></div><div>All of the crowd funding sites I have checked out take quite a cut for their services (I guess they <u>do</u> have to eat). I was hoping that could be reduced or avoided all together or at least minimized.</div><div><br>>> In any case, I personally really like idea of crowdfunding site (reuse<br>> existing one or creating new one). The process seems to be very<br>> community driven when there is no need in organization that handles<br>> everything, just an organization that process technical work and<br>> declares basic rules, the rest is community driven and self organized.<br>> For example, anyone can create new project and ask for funding.<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Aleksey<br></div> </div></body> </html>