<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Thanks Tracy & Christophe! Plz keep the orig discussants involved on <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:support-gang@laptop.org">support-gang@laptop.org</a> too :) On 5/9/2012 12:43 AM, Tracy Richardson wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:7154162c866296540306351f2f39cb95@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> <div class="WordSection1"> Hi Christophe (And anyone else), We can help with that! We have quite a substantial teacher training program which is absolutely core to what we do. You can see our online course and the types of tasks the teachers need to do to be prepared for deployment here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.moodle.com.au/">http://laptop.moodle.com.au/</a> We have a comprehensive learner manual here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.moodle.com.au/manual/">http://laptop.moodle.com.au/manual/</a> And we are in the process of developing ‘train the trainer’ materials which will be published online. If you contact me, I can provide you with login credentials to see where we’re up to in the development of those training modules. Please feel free to contact me if you need anything we have developed or would like to discuss what we’re doing here. Tracy Richardson Education Manager One Laptop per Child Australia P: 02 9378 6155 M: + 61 418 744 318 E: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tracy@laptop.org.au">tracy@laptop.org.au</a> A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.laptop.org.au/">www.laptop.org.au</a> <img id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:part5.06050005.09020600@laptop.org" alt="Description: cid:image001.png@01CA1041.F5C668E0" border="0" height="104" width="98"> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>] On Behalf Of Frederick Grose Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 2:27 AM To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> Subject: [IAEP] Material for teacher training Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> began this conversation on 04 May 2012 in the [support-gang] mailing list. It has blossomed to over 25 messages, and we decided to forward and continue it on [iaep] It's an Education Project: <div> Forwarded conversation Subject: [support-gang] Material for teacher training ------------------------ From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> Hi everyone, We are working on setting up a course about ICT4D at the Free University of Amsterdam (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vu.nl" target="_blank">www.vu.nl</a>). The idea is to train the students on this matter, spend a significant amount of time on education topics and the XO, and with the best students establish a team to take care of XO deployments. Progressively, contacts are being established with experts in relevant topics. We are also in touch with a school in Peru that received some XOs but no training on how to use them - as a result, they are not used. Our first goal will thus be to go there and help them making the best out of their devices. For this, we need to have some teaching material to be used there and we also need some material to teach our students, who will in turn teach the local teachers ;-) We found some pointer for the former but not much for the later. Would you have something to recommend? Besides, it would be handy to have some XOs for the course in Amsterdam. Shall we make a proposal through the contributor program or is there a more appropriate way to emit such request? Cheers, Christophe _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Jennifer Martino <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com">jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help ATlaptop.org" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <div> Hello Christoph! </div> <div> </div> <div> We could really use this kind of support in Canada too and we are exactly on the same page. Should we talk? </div> <div> @jennifermartino </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> </div> </blockquote> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM To: Jennifer Martino <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com">jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com</a>>, "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help ATlaptop.org" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <div> Ow exciting! We at BE have teaching material and a platform to collect and create more. Would love to get connected. Thanks Elise <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Www.whatisbe.com" target="_blank">Www.whatisbe.com</a> Sent from my Windows Phone </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </div> From: Jennifer Martino Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:53 PM To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help ATlaptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] Material for teacher training </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: James Simmons <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com">nicestep@gmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Christophe, I would guess you already know about my book "E-Book Enlightenment" but in case you don't it is here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/" target="_blank">http://www.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/</a> and here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://archive.org/details/EBookEnlightenment" target="_blank">http://archive.org/details/EBookEnlightenment</a> I wrote this book specifically for teachers and students so they could learn everything the XO can do for them that involves free e-books. The XO is much more than an e-book reader, but using it that way might be an easy way to start. Nobody questions the value of getting thousands of books for free. James Simmons <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> </div> </blockquote> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Frederick Grose <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com">fgrose@gmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:45 PM To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <div> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl" target="_blank">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> wrote: </div> <div> <div> Consider the resources from OLPC Australia, such as, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://edu.laptop.org.au/laptop/xo-cert-course" target="_blank">http://edu.laptop.org.au/laptop/xo-cert-course</a> --Fred </div> </div> ---------- From: Chris Leonard <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:11 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Christophe, If you want to talk to some people in Peru about the curricular materials provided by the government and some explorations of adding to that set of materials, you should probably reach out to the Peruvian Sugar community via the somosazucar list (in Spanish is typically best). <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/somosazucar" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/somosazucar</a> As for getting XO laptops, a Contributors Program application or finding a European XO lending library (OLPC France?) seem like your best options. cjl Sugar Labs Translation Team Coordinator <div> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> wrote: </div> ---------- From: Tabitha Roder <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tabitha@tabitha.net.nz">tabitha@tabitha.net.nz</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Cc: OLPC Australia list <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:olpc-au@lists.laptop.org">olpc-au@lists.laptop.org</a>>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a> Hi Cristophe Can I suggest you talk with the Australian crowd? They have some good resources as they do teacher training and have a Moodle site with some courses that might suit. Kind regards Tabitha Roder eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer Cell <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B64%2021%20482229">+64 21 482229</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tabitha@tabitha.net.nz">tabitha@tabitha.net.nz</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://tabitharoder.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://tabitharoder.wordpress.com/</a> Winner: NZ Open Source Contributor Award 2010 <div> > _______________________________________________ > support-gang mailing list > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> > _______________________________________________ </div> OLPC-AU mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:OLPC-AU@lists.laptop.org">OLPC-AU@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au</a> ---------- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sridhar@laptop.org.au">sridhar@laptop.org.au</a>> Date: Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:41 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Cc: OLPC Australia list <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:olpc-au@lists.laptop.org">olpc-au@lists.laptop.org</a>> I suggest that you take a look at our One Education programme: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.one-education.org/" target="_blank">http://www.one-education.org/</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.techworld.com.au/article/421124/one_laptop_per_child_australia_set_launch_one_education_program" target="_blank">http://www.techworld.com.au/article/421124/one_laptop_per_child_australia_set_launch_one_education_program</a> We _only_ supply XOs for classes who have a teacher who have passed a training course and earnt a certification. The course is 100% online, and hence can be completed by anyone in the world. For further information, fill in the contact form at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.one-education.org/" target="_blank">http://www.one-education.org/</a> Regards, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia ---------- From: Caryl Bigenho <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond t <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>>, Jennifer Martino <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com">jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com</a>> <div> <div> Hi All... <div> </div> <div> Here is a link to the Sugar Labs Peru site which has many, many resources. </div> <div> </div> <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/P%C3%A1gina_principal" target="_blank">http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/Página_principal</a> </div> <div> </div> <div> Many years ago (3 or 4?) I downloaded some great teacher training materials from Mochilla Digital. They included units on constructionism and project based learning, which really should be considered for inclusion in any training program for the XOs as many teachers have no experience with them. </div> <div> </div> <div> Some of the materials got lost in my hard drive crash last year, including the one with the schedule for a 3-day workshop for teachers that was very well planned. It included, among other things, having the teachers participate in projects done via constructionism and PBL to give them an idea of what they are and how they work. It no longer seems to be available. However, I do have a pdf of one of the guides covering collaborative learning and PBL. I will attach it to this email. Of course, it is all in Spanish, but Christoph shouldn't have any problem with that! <img moz-do-not-send="true" id="_x0000_i1026" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=btop&ver=18zqbez0n5t35" alt="Open-mouth smile" border="0" height="19" width="19"> </div> <div> </div> <div> Caryl <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com" target="_blank">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:02:11 -0700 To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com" target="_blank">jennifer.j.martino@gmail.com</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> </div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Gerald Ardito <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gmanb5@gmail.com">gmanb5@gmail.com</a>> Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:21 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Christophe, I can puy together some materials for this project. Gerald <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> </div> </blockquote> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Gonzalo Odiard <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> Date: Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:51 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> A place with many resources (in spanish) is: <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Recursos_en_espanol" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Recursos_en_espanol</a> </div> <div> </div> <div> Gonzalo </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Hi Elise, <div> <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> Ow exciting! We at BE have teaching material and a platform to collect and create more. Would love to get connected. Thanks Elise <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Www.whatisbe.com" target="_blank">Www.whatisbe.com</a> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <div> Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure that's the kind of things we need right now but I'll keep a note on it ;-) Christophe </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> James, Thanks, I was aware of your very nice book about making sugar activities but missed that one. If I remember correctly, Sameer made an e-book server using a plug PC. Is there any connection between your book and these project? Christophe <div> <div> On 4 May 2012 23:47, James Simmons <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicestep@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> Christophe, I would guess you already know about my book "E-Book Enlightenment" but in case you don't it is here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/" target="_blank">http://www.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/</a> and here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://archive.org/details/EBookEnlightenment" target="_blank">http://archive.org/details/EBookEnlightenment</a> I wrote this book specifically for teachers and students so they could learn everything the XO can do for them that involves free e-books. The XO is much more than an e-book reader, but using it that way might be an easy way to start. Nobody questions the value of getting thousands of books for free. James Simmons </div> <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM To: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>>, "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <div> It could be used train teachers. Look at the quiz platform, content is open to change by users <div> Sent from my Windows Phone </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div> From: Christophe Guéret Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:30 AM <div> To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to "help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>" </div> <div> Subject: Re: [support-gang] Material for teacher training </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM To: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>>, "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <div> Hi Christophe, could you kindly introduce us who don't know you about yourself, involvement with olpc etc? Thanks <div> Sent from my Windows Phone </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div> From: Christophe Guéret Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:35 AM <div> To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to "help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>" Subject: Re: [support-gang] Material for teacher training </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Date: Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:33 PM To: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>>, "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <div> Quick question, what resources and apps are available for teachers to learn about using a computer or the internet for the first time? And what resources are available to them to use as part of the curriculum for students, the first time? </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: James Simmons <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com">nicestep@gmail.com</a>> Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:07 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Christophe, I wouldn't say there is a connection, exactly. I describe a bunch of ways to publish e-books including having your own server, and several ways of doing that. I think that Sameer's book server used Pathagar, which I describe: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/the-pathagar-book-server/" target="_blank">en.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/the-pathagar-book-server/</a> My book had a working title of "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About E-Books* (*But Were Afraid To Ask) which is a joke that the target audience will be too young to get. I do try and describe everything you could possibly do with an e-book. For instance, there is no reason that students in Peru could not write and publish their own books and sell them on Amazon, either as e-books or as printed books using CreateSpace. The barrier to entry on this is absurdly low. If more teachers and students understand the material in my book it could change education. I say this not to praise my own work but to point out that there are untapped resources out there that teachers and students need to know about. James Simmons _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:42 AM To: James Simmons <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com">nicestep@gmail.com</a>>, "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <div> Great point James! I will spread the word! I propose an open conversation for more initiatives like this rather to talk, explore connections and improve Ed. Anyone else also interested? We could do this remotely. Best, Elise <div> Sent from my Windows Phone </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div> From: James Simmons Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:07 AM <div> To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to "help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>" Subject: Re: [support-gang] Material for teacher training </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Frederick Grose <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com">fgrose@gmail.com</a>> Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> This support-gang thread from the beginning seems to be a good candidate for moving to the open IAEP mailing list. Does anyone object to this? --Fred ---------- From: Chris Leonard <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>> Date: Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:07 PM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Frederick Grose <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com">fgrose@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > This support-gang thread from the beginning seems to be a good candidate for > moving to the open IAEP mailing list. > > Does anyone object to this? </div> For my part, I think moving it to IAEP would be a very good idea. I'm subscribed to both as are many of us and IAEP has a somewhat larger audience and it is publicly archived for the benefit of future reference. cjl ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:34 AM To: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Cc: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Ok, didn't tought about it this way. I was more into seeing how this could be used for the kids but our first "target" is our students that will train the teachers... <div> On 6 May 2012 17:59, elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com" target="_blank">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <div> <div> It could be used train teachers. Look at the quiz platform, content is open to change by users <div> Sent from my Windows Phone </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div> From: Christophe Guéret Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:30 AM <div> To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to "help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>" </div> <div> Subject: Re: [support-gang] Material for teacher training </div> <div> <div> Hi Elise, <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> Ow exciting! We at BE have teaching material and a platform to collect and create more. Would love to get connected. Thanks Elise <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Www.whatisbe.com" target="_blank">Www.whatisbe.com</a> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure that's the kind of things we need right now but I'll keep a note on it ;-) Christophe </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:46 AM To: elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> Cc: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Hi Elise, My name is Christophe Guéret and I'm a researcher working at the Free University in Amsterdam. The research group I'm in is doing research in Knowledge Representation and Reasoning techniques, my specific areas of interest include the publication of Linked Open Data and the related impact on Development. In late 2010, I proposed a contributor project named "SemanticXO" whose goal is to investigate how Semantic Web technologies, and in particular Linked Data principles, could impact the features of Sugar. Parallel to this, I tried to bring this as a research topic and got some more colleagues joining me in this initiative. We now have some visibility and a small group is busy working on Linked Data for resources constrained contexts (such as an Internet-less, or almost, mesh of XOs). You can find more information about SemanticXO there: * A short video <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://semweb4u.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/1-minute-video-about-semanticxo/" target="_blank">http://semweb4u.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/1-minute-video-about-semanticxo/</a> * A presentation of a position paper presented at our biggest SW conference last year <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://videolectures.net/iswc2011_schlobach_web/" target="_blank">http://videolectures.net/iswc2011_schlobach_web/</a> * The feature proposal <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Semantic_Web" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Semantic_Web</a> I'd be happy to flood you with more links about SemanticXO or our other projects related to ICT4D if you want ;-) This mail I sent was related to another project for the VU. Beside this SemanticXO work, we would like to actually do something concrete and help some schools we are in touch with. We are thus setting up a course to train students with the goal to have a local team able to take care of deployments. Cheers, Christophe <div> On 6 May 2012 18:00, elise moussa <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elise.moussa@gmail.com" target="_blank">elise.moussa@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <div> <div> Hi Christophe, could you kindly introduce us who don't know you about yourself, involvement with olpc etc? Thanks <div> <div> Sent from my Windows Phone </div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div> From: Christophe Guéret Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:35 AM <div> <div> To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to "help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a>" Subject: Re: [support-gang] Material for teacher training </div> </div> <div> <div> James, Thanks, I was aware of your very nice book about making sugar activities but missed that one. If I remember correctly, Sameer made an e-book server using a plug PC. Is there any connection between your book and these project? Christophe <div> On 4 May 2012 23:47, James Simmons <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicestep@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <div> Christophe, I would guess you already know about my book "E-Book Enlightenment" but in case you don't it is here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/" target="_blank">http://www.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/</a> and here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://archive.org/details/EBookEnlightenment" target="_blank">http://archive.org/details/EBookEnlightenment</a> I wrote this book specifically for teachers and students so they could learn everything the XO can do for them that involves free e-books. The XO is much more than an e-book reader, but using it that way might be an easy way to start. Nobody questions the value of getting thousands of books for free. James Simmons <div> <div> <div> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl" target="_blank">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> wrote: </div> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> Hi everyone, We are working on setting up a course about ICT4D at the Free University of Amsterdam (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vu.nl" target="_blank">www.vu.nl</a>). The idea is to train the students on this matter, spend a significant amount of time on education topics and the XO, and with the best students establish a team to take care of XO deployments. Progressively, contacts are being established with experts in relevant topics. We are also in touch with a school in Peru that received some XOs but no training on how to use them - as a result, they are not used. Our first goal will thus be to go there and help them making the best out of their devices. For this, we need to have some teaching material to be used there and we also need some material to teach our students, who will in turn teach the local teachers ;-) We found some pointer for the former but not much for the later. Would you have something to recommend? Besides, it would be handy to have some XOs for the course in Amsterdam. Shall we make a proposal through the contributor program or is there a more appropriate way to emit such request? Cheers, Christophe </div> </div> <div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:50 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> James, <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> For instance, there is no reason that students in Peru could not write and publish their own books and sell them on Amazon, either as e-books or as printed books using CreateSpace. The barrier to entry on this is absurdly low. </div> </blockquote> <div> That's a good point which also applies to students in Amsterdam. We could discuss how we can publish the material we will build for this course as a book :) Christophe </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:50 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> Great point James! I will spread the word! I propose an open conversation for more initiatives like this rather to talk, explore connections and improve Ed. Anyone else also interested? We could do this remotely. </div> </div> </blockquote> <div> I'm in! Christophe </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:51 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> <div> On 7 May 2012 19:07, Chris Leonard <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com" target="_blank">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <div> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Frederick Grose <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > This support-gang thread from the beginning seems to be a good candidate for > moving to the open IAEP mailing list. > > Does anyone object to this? </div> For my part, I think moving it to IAEP would be a very good idea. I'm subscribed to both as are many of us and IAEP has a somewhat larger audience and it is publicly archived for the benefit of future reference. <div> Yes, let's move to IAEP, it also seems the conversation will be better suited for this list. Christophe </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:40 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Hi Chris, <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> If you want to talk to some people in Peru about the curricular materials provided by the government and some explorations of adding to that set of materials, you should probably reach out to the Peruvian Sugar community via the somosazucar list (in Spanish is typically best). <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/somosazucar" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/somosazucar</a> </blockquote> <div> My Spanish is not as good as it used to be but we should be able to find a way to communicate, hopefully :) </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> As for getting XO laptops, a Contributors Program application or finding a European XO lending library (OLPC France?) seem like your best options. </blockquote> <div> Ok, we'll go ahead with making an application then. Christophe </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> ---------- From: Christophe Guéret <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl">c.d.m.gueret@vu.nl</a>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:47 AM To: "Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to \"help AT <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a>\"" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a>> Hi, <div> <div> <div> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <div> Here is a link to the Sugar Labs Peru site which has many, many resources. </div> <div> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/P%C3%A1gina_principal" target="_blank">http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/Página_principal</a> </div> <div> </div> <div> Many years ago (3 or 4?) I downloaded some great teacher training materials from Mochilla Digital. They included units on constructionism and project based learning, which really should be considered for inclusion in any training program for the XOs as many teachers have no experience with them. </div> <div> </div> <div> Some of the materials got lost in my hard drive crash last year, including the one with the schedule for a 3-day workshop for teachers that was very well planned. It included, among other things, having the teachers participate in projects done via constructionism and PBL to give them an idea of what they are and how they work. It no longer seems to be available. However, I do have a pdf of one of the guides covering collaborative learning and PBL. I will attach it to this email. Of course, it is all in Spanish, but Christoph shouldn't have any problem with that! <img moz-do-not-send="true" id="_x0000_i1033" src="http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr04/ltr/emo/open_mouthed_smile.gif" alt="Open-mouth smile" border="0" height="19" width="19"> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <div> Thanks a lot! So, it seems we should have at least a part about constructionism and project based learning in our curriculum. Then, our students will be able to explain what this notions are about to the teachers and help them create courses that fit these principles. Sounds good, and we can surely re-use some of the content in that PDF (once we manage to read it and translate it to Dutch ;-) ) Christophe </div> </div> _______________________________________________ support-gang mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a> </div> </div> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Help kids everywhere map their world, at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://olpcMAP.net">http://olpcMAP.net</a> !</pre> </body> </html>