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On 01/15/2012 09:44 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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OK. I'll make a Pineaple Live CD for the Mac on my Mac. Can I
make a live CD on my Mac that will run on a PC?
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You can burn an .iso file on the Mac in DiskUtility.app that works
on PC's and Intel Mac's <br>
Trisquel 5-sugar will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want:
windows boot)- connects only with a USB D-Link DWL-122 Dongle<br>
-sees jabber<br>
-record 87 (Update) sees Mac Camera and takes pictures<br>
-not all activities work<br>
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Pineapple 64 bit will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want:
windows boot) - no internet connection (only looking for wireless,
wired not seen)<br>
Pineapple 32 bit will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want:
windows boot) - no internet connection (only looking for wireless,
wired not seen)<br>
<br>
hold "option" key down until windows or EFI appears. wait can be
10-20 sec.<br>
<br>
Note: Latest SoaS versions do not seem to have a working EFI boot
anymore. Fedora must have made some changes : (<br>
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>All CD's will boot an intel PC<<br>
<br>
All CD's were burned on my i7 MacBook Pro tonight to test for you.<br>
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Cordially<br>
<br>
Tom Gilliard<br>
satellit_ on #sugar<br>
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<div>Thanks again</div>
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<div>-C<br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:41:22 -0800<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com">satellit@bendbroadband.com</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Crunch Time<br>
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On 01/15/2012 09:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012
21:16:48 -0800<br>
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href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com">satellit@bendbroadband.com</a><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Crunch Time<br>
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On 01/15/2012 09:05 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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<div dir="ltr"> Hi!
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<div>I didn't expect an answer so fast. Thanks!
Sounds like Trisquel 5-sugar will be perfect
for what I need. For my Mac I can use a Virtual
Box (or Parallels?), but to have something that
I can give to everyone, I guess Trisquel 5 would
do very nicely.</div>
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<div>I had Parallels and Windows 7 installed on my
new MacBook Pro so that I can run a health
program (diabetes) that is only available for
Windows. I was having some boot problems and
thought it might be due to them. So I have
temporarily uninstalled them.</div>
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<div>Is Pineapple stable enough to hand out to
newbies?</div>
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Yes I recommend it (32 bit) if you want it for PC's
(no mac boot) though you can burn the CD from an .iso
on your Mac.<br>
Trisquel will also work though some pippy examples do
not work on it. <br>
They do in Soas-v6 Pineapple</div>
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<div><i>I'll switch to italics to make it easy to
follow. I need something that will run on any intel
machine so I can give the same CD to anyone,
regardless of their machine preference. Does such a
version exist?</i></div>
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If you mean intel MAC's;<br>
Not really.<br>
64 bit f16-SoaS will boot on some PC's (some intel Atom and
64 bit dual core processors) and ON A SUBSET OF intel Macs
but EFI Boot on a MAC requires a wired Cat5 network
connection . THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL VERSION ATM.<br>
<br>
If that is what you want It does not exist yet.<br>
<br>
Sorry I have given you the best recommendations in the
previous e-mails.<br>
<br>
Look again for reference:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB</a><br>
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Cordially;<br>
<br>
Tom Gilliard<br>
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<div><i>Thanks again... Caryl<br>
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Regards;<br>
<br>
Tom Gilliard<br>
satellit_<br>
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<div>Caryl<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sun, 15 Jan
2012 20:58:55 -0800<br>
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To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Crunch Time<br>
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On 01/15/2012 07:07 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">Hi Tom,</p>
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">It's
crunch time! I finished both slide
shows I needed for SCaLE 10X and am now
working to find the one version of SoaS
that I can put on a Live CD for
distribution at our booth and demo in my
presentation. Someone has suggested
Trisquel. But, isn't it mostly for
little kids (first grade)? I want one
that includes Pippy and Turtle Blocks
(Art), if at all possible.</p>
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Caryl;<br>
<br>
Trisquel 5-sugar (Toast) has Turtle Art 120
and Pippy 43 on it. (Pippy does not run the
Camera and Physics examples.)<br>
It also has Etoys 116<br>
Software Update (new applications) will load
Turtle Machine 10 <br>
<br>
SoaS-v6-Pineapple has Etoys 116; Turtle Art
120; and Pippy 43<br>
Software Update: includes upgrades to Turtle
Art 131 and Pippy 44 (camera and Physics
examples work)<br>
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">So what
version will work most "universally" on
Macs (Intel) and PCs on a "Live CD"</p>
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64 Bit Soas v6 Pineapple boots both ways. But
the EFI Boot is unable to see the wireless<br>
(64 bit is not as universal as 32 bit)<br>
<br>
I still recommend installing VirtualBox 4.1
for OSX and to import this appliance from<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple</a><br>
<dl>
<dd><b>RECOMMENDED</b>
<dl>
<dd>firstboot has not yet run; so a new
user name and password will be set for
the gdm login on startup for the first
time </dd>
</dl>
</dd>
<dd>Built 11/13/2011 with Virtualbox 4.1.4
for OSX</dd>
<dd>How Built: <b>root=sugarroot</b> 4-GB
VirtualBox hard disc English and English
keyboard USA-Los Angeles (Pacific
timezone)</dd>
<dd><b>download and import 2 files:</b></dd>
</dl>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL-disk1.vmdk"
target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL-disk1.vmdk</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL.ovf"
target="_blank">http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL.ovf</a><br>
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VitualBox works with the Mac Wireless properly<br>
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">Will your
instructions for burning a live CD in
Disk Utility on the wiki make a CD that
will play universally?</p>
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Yes I tested it on my ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 and
on the Mac Powerbook i7<br>
It boots the CD in each case. From any CD .iso
you choose.<br>
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">I
downloaded Mirabelle in the 64 bit
version. I think that is a mistake. It
won't be universal.</p>
<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">So which
one should I try. The downloads take
several hours. My internet only does
about 75 Mb/sec/</p>
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If I had only one: f16-Soas-v6 Pineapple (32
bit)<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads"
target="_blank">http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads</a><br>
RECOMMENDED<br>
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Cordially;<br>
<br>
Tom Gilliard<br>
satellit_<br>
Note:<br>
Look at this to see which activities are
compatible with SoaS-v6 Pineapple<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix</a><br>
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">Thanks!</p>
<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">Caryl</p>
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<p style="font: 12px Helvetica;">P.S. If
you have time, you can save me some time
by sending links.</p>
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