<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Hi Sebastian,</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Thanks for the reference to "A Byte of Python." I had it downloaded on my computer... on the hard drive that had a fatal crash on the ferry from Montevideo to BsAs. I guess I had better download it again onto the new hard drive. It sounds like it has the info I need to get started.</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">I was hoping I could just use the Khan Academy videos to get a running start on Python. I figured since I used to be pretty good at programming in the old languages (Fortran, BASIC, and Pascal) that it would transfer easily to Python once I got all the terms and syntax down.</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Then I ran into a wall... the need for an editor. I just need a simple, easy to install and use editor and everyone was very helpful in suggesting things, but none were what I would classify as easy to get started on. Oh well, I kept telling Adam there were no shortcuts to learning a language (Spanish), I guess this applies to computer languages too!</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Yes, Christofer is pretty amazing. I didn't actually meet him when we were there, but I have followed his progress and accomplishments with interest. </font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Thanks again for the suggestion... now I'm going to download Byte of Python, then I guess I'll go for DrPython.</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Caryl</font></p><div><br></div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 06:50:42 +0500<br>From: sebastian@somosazucar.org<br>To: cbigenho@hotmail.com<br>CC: support-gang@lists.laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; quozl@laptop.org<br>Subject: Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Quick Question<br><br> I was going to recommend DrPython and found this document, a chapter of the book "A Byte of Python":<br> <br> <tt><i><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Georgia,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"> <div class="ecxtitlepage"> <div> <div> <h2 class="title" style="color:rgb(102, 51, 0);margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:sans-serif;clear:both">"Choosing an editor</h2> </div> </div> </div> Before we move on to writing Python programs in files, we need an editor to write the 'source' files. The choice of an editor is crucial. You have to choose an editor as you would choose a car that you want to buy. A good editor will help you write Python programs easily, making your journey more comfortable and helps you reach your destination (achieve your goal) in a much faster and safer manner.<BR> One of the basic requirements of a good editor is<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><span class="ecxbold"><strong>syntax highlighting</strong></span><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>where all the different parts of your program are colorized so that you can<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><span class="ecxemphasis"><em>see</em></span><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>your program and visualize how it will run. This also means that you should avoid Windows Notepad especially because it doesn't support indentation. Indentation means neatly formatting the program with the use of whitespace (spaces and tabs) at the beginning of the line to make it easy to read the program. We will soon learn why indentation is important in Python.<BR> There are<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments" target="_blank">various development environments</a><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>and<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PythonEditors" target="_blank">many editors for Python</a><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>available. In order to keep things simple, I recommend using the <span class="ecxapplication" style="color:maroon">DrPython</span><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>development environment. It is pronounced as<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><span class="ecxemphasis"><em>doctor-python</em></span>. It is called a development environment since you can edit, run and manage Python programs completely within DrPython. An interesting note is that DrPython itself is written in Python.<BR> First, we shall install DrPython."<br> <BR> </span></i></tt><i><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Georgia, sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"> He proceeds with instructions to install on all three major platforms:<br> <a href="http://dsnra.jpl.nasa.gov/software/Python/byte-of-python/output/byteofpython_html/choosing-editor.html" target="_blank">http://dsnra.jpl.nasa.gov/software/Python/byte-of-python/output/byteofpython_html/choosing-editor.html</a><br> <br> Incidentally, Christofer, the boy I think you and I met in Montevideo, sugarized DrPython, so it works well with the XO as well:<br> <a href="http://activities.sugarlabs.org//es-ES/sugar/addon/4427" target="_blank">http://activities.sugarlabs.org//es-ES/sugar/addon/4427</a><br> <BR> </span></i>These uruguayan kids never cease to amaze me.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Sebastian<br> <br> El 06/08/11 05:49, Caryl Bigenho escribió: <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W65986654C17356B55F61D2CC3F0@phx.gbl"> <style> .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} </style> <div dir="ltr"> <div><i>Hi...</i></div> <div><i><br> </i></div> <div><i>I must be doing something wrong:</i></div> <div><i><br> </i></div> <div>>>> idle</div> <div>Traceback (most recent call last):</div> <div> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module></div> <div>NameError: name 'idle' is not defined</div> <div>>>> </div> <div><i><br> </i></div> <div><i>This is where I am in Terminal:</i></div> <div><i><br> </i></div> <div> <div>Python 2.7.2 (v2.7.2:8527427914a2, Jun 11 2011, 14:13:39) </div> <div>[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493)] on darwin</div> <div>Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.</div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><i>Caryl</i></div> <div><br> </div> <div>> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:34:25 +1000<br> > From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a><br> > To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a><br> > CC: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > Subject: Re: [support-gang] Quick Question<br> > <br> > In Terminal, type idle and press enter. You get Python's own editor,<br> > with a Python shell that you can type into as well.<br> > <br> > -- <br> > James Cameron<br> > <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > support-gang mailing list<br> > <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a><br> > <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang</a><br> </div> </div> <br> <fieldset class="ecxmimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre>_______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></pre> </blockquote> <br></div> </div></body> </html>