<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mokurai@earthtreasury.org">mokurai@earthtreasury.org</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:4b540ecefdba42e0a39128dcd6a082ed.squirrel@emailmg.ipage.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Wed, June 29, 2011 2:29 pm, Valerie Taylor wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Is there a minimum set of Sugar teacher/tutor training, hardware and software that could be implemented by a community supported remedial program that works with kids outside regular elementary school? Is this something that could be considered and/or suggested? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> That is a whole set of questions bundled up into one. XOs and their Sugar distributions are the minimum standard set. The maximum is whatever is currently on Activities.sugarlabs.org. You can buy individual used XOs on eBay for about $150 each. If some NGO would be willing to buy 10,000 units and make them available in smaller quantities to other NGOs, we could talk about all sorts of programs. Prices would likely be in the $200-$250 range. The initial investment would be about $2 million up front, with delivery date to be determined later. Nobody has so far been willing to operate on those terms. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">A local program provides small group time as their primary learning activities and has some computers that they use already. Most of the software is the usual proprietary kids educational products. Their regular program would lend itself to including basic Sugar Labs Activities. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Sugar on a Stick </pre> </blockquote> Besides to the fedora Soas Project, You should look at this polished SugarLabs (Ubuntu Based) Project : It uses alsroot's sugar sweets 0.88.1, and shares some features with the XO-1 OLPC Dextrose software * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686</a> ---More Information: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Trisquel">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Trisquel</a> ---Importable Virtualbox appliance: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#Trisquel-Gnome-sugar_4.5_Release_Candidate">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#Trisquel-Gnome-sugar_4.5_Release_Candidate</a> ---dd write to 2 GB USB: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img</a> ---Testing: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Trisquel#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Trisquel#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686</a> FYI Sugar-desktop is available in all of these Linux Distributions <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions</a> Sugar-Activity Information is available from these links: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sck/activities">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sck/activities</a> Tom Gilliard satellit <blockquote cite="mid:4b540ecefdba42e0a39128dcd6a082ed.squirrel@emailmg.ipage.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""></pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Are there guidelines for when Sugar Labs Activities can be beneficial even if it isn't possible or practical to provide the all-inclusive OLPC environment? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Always. ^_^ </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">In this case, the computers could probably loaded with Linux and Sugar, and would be stand-alone (without a classroom or school server). I don't know if the machines are networked so that groups and neighborhoods could be available. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Any of the above. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Is anyone doing this now? Does Sugar Labs encourage this? What is a minimum setup that could be considered? What are the "gotcha's" for doing something like this? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Various NGOs have various programs around XOs and Sugar in other forms. Sugar Labs encourages this. Sugar on a Stick There are some technical issues. SoaS is not easy enough to create. It does not work on every computer. Therefore preplanning and testing is necessary. Mostly, the issue is that prospective teachers do not have enough guidance on how to use Sugar effectively. That is one of the targets for the Replacing Textbooks program. Of course, you can buy pre-recorded SoaS USB units, although I don't know which versions of SoaS are available. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">To replace textbooks, is there a strategy for moving to wider use of Sugar as part of the process? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Of course. The idea is to integrate Sugar into every topic where it is practical in every subject. That is the equivalent of more than 100 textbooks, with more than 10,000 topics. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Thanks ..Valerie </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> _______________________________________________ </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>