<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Christoph Derndorfer <<a href="mailto:e0425826@student.tuwien.ac.at">e0425826@student.tuwien.ac.at</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Am 15.06.2011 18:12, schrieb Walter Bender: > All of that said, let me repeat an argument I made regarding the Sugar > Journal during the EduJam summit last month: we developed the Journal > not because we wanted to be incompatible with the rest of the world > but because we wanted to address some pedagogical needs. Specifically, > we want the children to have a place to reflect upon their work. The > Journal is their portfolio. Reflection requires effort and some > developers consider the prompts to write in the Journal as an > annoyance. But when I ask those same developers if they think adding a > commit message to their commits in git, they immediately understand > the value. So some of the annoyance of the Journal is because we have > not completely solved the UI issues (the good news is that Simon has > some patches landing that fix some of these issues) but some of the > annoyance is because we want to make the path of least resistance be > one where the children are prompted to be reflective-- to write in > their "lab notebooks" about what they are doing and why and to make > presentations to their teachers, parents, and fellow students about > their work. (The latter is facilitated by the new Portfolio activity.) > > In any case, concrete feedback and criticism is welcome. Thanks. </blockquote></div> Not time no to follow this so!! interesting topic, would like to point some suggestions. <ul><li>To have visible one entrance per Activity -just the last one.</li> </ul><ul><li>To get to the second last entrance of the same Activity, (let s say to the last 5) in an "older Journal" or kind of second screen, ( like facebook does, or a blog) . The rest of the thing just accessibles by tags or conscious backup in an external media. </li></ul><ul><li>[OT] Sell and buy pendrives and cards ( I live in uruguay where sd cards are not expensive, nevertheless you go to a local shop and they don t even know what to sell to a ceibalita and we have around 1,5 laptop per person) </li></ul><ul><li>Let each Activity dialogue with Journal it s own way. It seems clear that an activity used for writing or drawing needs 10 times more space in Journal than one like Firefox, or any player or game. </li> </ul><ul><li>Make an alternative browsing for elder people that feel uncomfortable with the Journal. In other case Sugar is facing the non understanding that makes it look taxative and fortuite. </li></ul> ((I always thought that porfolio was the magic word for understanding Journal... It is known in Uruguay as as an "evaluation techinque" - i chose Portfolio for my final work in "Evaluation of Education" at the 3erd year regular course of the Uruguayan Professors Institute. I think primary teachers study exactly the same it is not difficult to find experts on that technique.)) <ul><li> "TÉCNICA DE PORTAFOLIO" is then the translation of the idea to our teacher's book and the spanish term was not mentioned that before. </li></ul>My opinions: Kids dont care about keeping everything. The concept is to mind more about the doing and less about the done. You focus on the process ( nothing that teachers haven t read before) The machine is then just a place to interact with Activitys and other kids. It is not a PC and xo_s are not isolated from grown up or adminstrators machines or other kind of backup ( internet conection or cards) Sugar is nice, is strong and extremely simple (Collaboration is a key issue. Other is the using the ubuntu teacher' s laptop as a server of the pupil' s xo_s )