<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"> <html><body> Just now I received an email with technology recommendations from Susan Barton (who I think is a pretty cool dyslexia advocate) and they total between $500 - $1000, depending on what type of RFB&D book reader player you choose. That is why I am so fanatical about getting open source software offerings publicised. Currently, you have to be rich to survive as a dyslexic person. Booo . . . . Hissss . . . . Sugar can change all of that! Marilyn On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:07:19 -0400, iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <pre>Send IAEP mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:iaep-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of IAEP digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Argentina] [Sur] Planet Sugarlabs Latinoamerica (Edward Cherlin) 2. Re: [Argentina] [Sur] Planet Sugarlabs Latinoamerica (Bernie Innocenti) 3. Re: I am so excited I can hardly stand it - how about a Daisy Reader too? (<a href="mailto:mokurai@earthtreasury.org">mokurai@earthtreasury.org</a>) 4. Re: Texas Senate Bills 866 & 867 regarding dyslexia passed over the weekend (Sridhar Dhanapalan) 5. Re: Texas Senate Bills 866 & 867 regarding dyslexia passed over the weekend (Gonzalo Odiard) 6. Re: I am so excited I can hardly stand it - how about a Daisy Reader too? (James Simmons) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 16:32:28 -0400 From: Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>> To: Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@sugarlabs.org">bernie@sugarlabs.org</a>> Cc: Gustavo Ibarra <<a href="mailto:ibarrags@gmail.com">ibarrags@gmail.com</a>>, "OLPC para usuarios, docentes, voluntarios y administradores" <<a href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a>>, Rafael Ortiz <<a href="mailto:rafael@activitycentral.com">rafael@activitycentral.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:gacq@cafelug.org.ar">gacq@cafelug.org.ar</a>, OLPC-AR <<a href="mailto:argentina@lists.laptop.org">argentina@lists.laptop.org</a>>, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@gmail.com">dfarning@gmail.com</a>>, IAEP <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Argentina] [Sur] Planet Sugarlabs Latinoamerica Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTin_BjA8Zy8=nJ=9qaXBqAdWLffrbg@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTin_BjA8Zy8=nJ=9qaXBqAdWLffrbg@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I could assist, but I can't take on another whole project, even part time. On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:47, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@sugarlabs.org">bernie@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">[cc += iaep] On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 11:43 -0400, Edward Cherlin wrote: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Is there a way for a reader to filter the feed, to get just entries in Spanish? Can we add an automatic translation button? Would anybody be willing to commit to some amount of translation in either direction?</blockquote> The planet is looking for a committed editor who would: 1. Process syndication requests, checking that the new feed contains only articles relevant to Sugar, Sugar activities or deployments using Sugar: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sysadmin/Planet_syndication_request">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sysadmin/Planet_syndication_request</a> 2. Contact the owners of dead feeds and possibly drop them: <a href="http://planet.sugarlabs.org/validate.html">http://planet.sugarlabs.org/validate.html</a> 3. Promote quality, not quantity. Sometimes, feed owners think it's cool to tag stories about their personal life as "sugar". I usually write them in private to remind them that they have to stay on topic. 4. Refresh the visual look of the Planet. The current CSS is just dreadful and need to be redesigned or replaced altogether. 5. We probably need to add a separate feed for content in Spanish. I don't believe in automated translations, but maybe we could provide a link which goes through Google Translator. 6. Improve the software. We're currently using a simple RSS aggregator called Planet Venus, which is easy to deploy and customize, but lacks advanced features. 7. As with any other volunteer position in our community, remember to step down responsibly when you no longer have time to contribute. Until we appoint a new Planet Master, I occasionally dedicate some time to maintain the planet, but I don't consider myself a proper editor. -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team</a></blockquote> <pre> -- Edward Mokurai (??/???????????????/????????????? ?) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks</a> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 16:37:39 -0400 From: Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@sugarlabs.org">bernie@sugarlabs.org</a>> To: Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>> Cc: Gustavo Ibarra <<a href="mailto:ibarrags@gmail.com">ibarrags@gmail.com</a>>, "OLPC para usuarios, docentes, voluntarios y administradores" <<a href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a>>, Rafael Ortiz <<a href="mailto:rafael@activitycentral.com">rafael@activitycentral.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:gacq@cafelug.org.ar">gacq@cafelug.org.ar</a>, OLPC-AR <<a href="mailto:argentina@lists.laptop.org">argentina@lists.laptop.org</a>>, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@gmail.com">dfarning@gmail.com</a>>, IAEP <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Argentina] [Sur] Planet Sugarlabs Latinoamerica Message-ID:Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 16:32 -0400, Edward Cherlin wrote:</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">I could assist, but I can't take on another whole project, even part time.</blockquote> <pre>Thank you, I understand. It's best not to overcommit. -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team</a> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:14:55 -0400 From: <a href="mailto:mokurai@earthtreasury.org">mokurai@earthtreasury.org</a> To: "Gonzalo Odiard" <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>, <a href="mailto:custserv@learningally.org">custserv@learningally.org</a>, <a href="mailto:marilyn@ourdyslexicchildren.org">marilyn@ourdyslexicchildren.org</a> Subject: Re: [IAEP] I am so excited I can hardly stand it - how about a Daisy Reader too? Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:2426ddb13ff5bf8812df335b395914d5.squirrel@emailmg.ipage.com">2426ddb13ff5bf8812df335b395914d5.squirrel@emailmg.ipage.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 On Mon, May 30, 2011 2:38 pm, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, <<a href="mailto:marilyn@ourdyslexicchildren.org">marilyn@ourdyslexicchildren.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Hi! Oh my goodness . . . you can read EPUBs? That is great!! Even the book reader people say they can't speak EPUB - I am thinking about KNO and the reader that Barnes and Noble is pushing. They say they can't do it.</blockquote> Well, the support of epub files in Read activity was done more than a year ago, I think by Sayamindu Dasgupta.</blockquote> <pre>Good to know. I must go test it.</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Can you also include a Daisy Reader or something that works with the RFB&D (Recording For the Blind & Dyslexic) books?</blockquote> </blockquote> <pre>We have been discussing that for years, and some work in that direction was done using the text-to-speech engine in Speak, and following the model of Same Language Subtitling of Bollywood films with coloring of the text as it is spoken or sung. (The most effective literacy campaign in India ever.) If you can drum up some volunteer developers or financial support for the project we can probably complete it for English and Spanish, and then offer it to other language communities for adaptation to their speech and writing systems. Accessibility is one of the critical targets for the Replacing Textbooks project that I manage, to get rid of print and go to digital Open Education Resources.</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Now they call themselves Learning Ally (<a href="http://learningally.org">http://learningally.org</a>). There is something open source that works with Firefox for Windows called DDReader. I am not techy enough to know if it is adaptable. The Learning Ally files are audio. Formerly they have been encrypted mp3s or wmas, but now they are in a push to make everything more accessible. They have a huge collection and most current textbooks.</blockquote> I think the DDReader works only in Windows.</blockquote> <pre>Correct.</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">About the books in learningally.org, are these books free?</blockquote> <pre>Some can be downloaded by registered users at no charge, but thy are not generally under free licenses. Important Copyright Notice The contents of all Learning Ally books are protected under copyright law. Learning Ally regulates the distribution of materials within a qualified member population of individuals who have a learning disability, visual impairment or other physical disability, and who have provided documented evidence of a print disability</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">I am also a big fan of Librivox. Last semester I was at an elementary school and had what I called an audio book server. I just used the Gutenberg html versions with embedded audio of Librivox recordings. Using the web browser, the child clicked on the book and it started reading when the text and pictures came up. Kids liked it.</blockquote> Probably is a good online solution. I don't know how do this offline, because the recorded books a huge.</blockquote> <pre>This is one of the intended uses of School Servers.</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Can there be some sort of Sugar on a Stick version for dyslexic kids? I would definitely promote it and distribute it in Texas.</blockquote> </blockquote> <pre>We would probably not do a separate version, but would include accessibility in the base system.</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Probably is a good project, but need people with knowledge about dyslexic and time to create and maintain it.</blockquote> <pre>Nicholas Negroponte is dyslexic. We could talk to him about it.</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Thanks to all of you who are contributing. It's great!</blockquote> Thanks! I am only putting together the different pieces :) We know there are a lot of work to do. but I think we can create a solution in par or better than the commercialy offered. Gonzalo <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Marilyn</blockquote> </blockquote> <pre>[Irrelevant messages snipped.] -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks</a> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:25:12 +1000 From: Sridhar Dhanapalan <<a href="mailto:sridhar@laptop.org.au">sridhar@laptop.org.au</a>> To: Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> Cc: James Simmons <<a href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com">nicestep@gmail.com</a>>, iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Texas Senate Bills 866 & 867 regarding dyslexia passed over the weekend Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTinyPooHXE18oXzN7+BZ6f3ZLXM7cw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTinyPooHXE18oXzN7+BZ6f3ZLXM7cw@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 30 May 2011 22:24, Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> wrote:</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Well, you are describing our solution :)</blockquote> <pre>Great to hear! We are excited about this :)</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Read can open PDF, EPUB, DejaVu and text files. Can do text to speech with word highlighting of text files, and only text to speech of EPUB files right now. The idea is add the capability to the other formats.</blockquote> <pre>I've tried Read 87.2 on an XO with OLPC OS, and Read 88 on Fedora 14. I don't get any TTS options when I open an EPUB file with them. Is this functionality still in development?</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">This is the description of GetBooks. A deployment can use Pathagar to create a book repository. In eduJam, we talked about how improve the tagging of books to create catalogs, and we need to do a few changes in the server code. Nicholas and Daniel worked in code to add dynamic catalogs to GetBooks, and we are trying to improve it. GetBooks and Pathagar use the OPDS protocol.</blockquote> <pre>That's wonderful. We'd love to be able to add our own repositories. Sridhar ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:00:24 -0300 From: Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> To: Sridhar Dhanapalan <<a href="mailto:sridhar@laptop.org.au">sridhar@laptop.org.au</a>> Cc: James Simmons <<a href="mailto:nicestep@gmail.com">nicestep@gmail.com</a>>, iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Texas Senate Bills 866 & 867 regarding dyslexia passed over the weekend Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTingAoS3ceiXDQBh8RMctVnVtp5ZOw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTingAoS3ceiXDQBh8RMctVnVtp5ZOw@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan <<a href="mailto:sridhar@laptop.org.au">sridhar@laptop.org.au</a>>wrote:</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">On 30 May 2011 22:24, Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:gonzalo@laptop.org">gonzalo@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Well, you are describing our solution :)</blockquote> Great to hear! We are excited about this :) <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Read can open PDF, EPUB, DejaVu and text files. Can do text to speech with word highlighting of text files, and only text to speech of EPUB</blockquote> files <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">right now. The idea is add the capability to the other formats.</blockquote> I've tried Read 87.2 on an XO with OLPC OS, and Read 88 on Fedora 14. I don't get any TTS options when I open an EPUB file with them. Is this functionality still in development?</blockquote> <pre> Yes. You can test a preview version in <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/Read-89.xo">http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/Read-89.xo</a>In a few days I will publish it in ASLO</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">This is the description of GetBooks. A deployment can use Pathagar to create a book repository. In eduJam, we talked about how improve the tagging of books to create catalogs, and we need to do a few changes</blockquote> in <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">the server code. Nicholas and Daniel worked in code to add dynamic catalogs to GetBooks, and we are trying to improve it. GetBooks and Pathagar use the OPDS protocol.</blockquote> That's wonderful. We'd love to be able to add our own repositories.</blockquote> <pre>You have more information about Pathagar server here: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Book_Server">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Book_Server</a> Gonzalo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BANLkTikV3Sf3mtvm08xwEnuotnzckrajdw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTikV3Sf3mtvm08xwEnuotnzckrajdw@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Marilyn, The only free source of material in Daisy format that I know of is the Internet Archive. For example, one of the books I donated: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/BigAviationBookForBoys">http://www.archive.org/details/BigAviationBookForBoys</a> Looking at the Daisy file it seems to have no advantage over a plain text file. I understand that there *are* advantages. For instance, if you are blind you can get Daisy format books from IA for books not in the public domain. However, from a technical standpoint you could take the XML file inside the Daisy file, strip out the XML tags, and load it into Read Etexts and you'd have most of what a real Daisy reader would give you, at least as far as IA books are concerned. (IA books are created by doing OCR on photographed book pages. The OCR is high quality but far from perfect). To make a Daisy reader desirable you'd need a free source of high quality Daisy files which could not give you a plain text version of the same content. Its possible I'm missing something here. I'm not a Daisy expert. James Simmons On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM, <<a href="mailto:mokurai@earthtreasury.org">mokurai@earthtreasury.org</a>> wrote:</pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">On Mon, May 30, 2011 2:38 pm, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, <<a href="mailto:marilyn@ourdyslexicchildren.org">marilyn@ourdyslexicchildren.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">?Hi! Oh my goodness . . . you can read EPUBs? ?That is great!! Even the book reader people say they can't speak EPUB - I am thinking about KNO and the reader that Barnes and Noble is pushing. ?They say they can't do it.</blockquote> Well, the support of epub files in Read activity was done more than a year ago, I think by Sayamindu Dasgupta.</blockquote> Good to know. I must go test it. <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Can you also include a Daisy Reader or something that works with the RFB&D (Recording For the Blind & Dyslexic) books?</blockquote> </blockquote> We have been discussing that for years, and some work in that direction was done using the text-to-speech engine in Speak, and following the model of Same Language Subtitling of Bollywood films with coloring of the text as it is spoken or sung. (The most effective literacy campaign in India ever.) If you can drum up some volunteer developers or financial support for the project we can probably complete it for English and Spanish, and then offer it to other language communities for adaptation to their speech and writing systems. Accessibility is one of the critical targets for the Replacing Textbooks project that I manage, to get rid of print and go to digital Open Education Resources. <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Now they call themselves Learning Ally (<a href="http://learningally.org">http://learningally.org</a>). ?There is something open source that works with Firefox for Windows called DDReader. ?I am not techy enough to know if it is adaptable. ?The Learning Ally files are audio. Formerly they have been encrypted mp3s or wmas, but now they are in a push to make everything more accessible. ?They have a huge collection and most current textbooks.</blockquote> I think the DDReader works only in Windows.</blockquote> Correct. <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">About the books in learningally.org, are these books free?</blockquote> Some can be downloaded by registered users at no charge, but thy are not generally under free licenses. Important Copyright Notice The contents of all Learning Ally books are protected under copyright law. Learning Ally regulates the distribution of materials within a qualified member population of individuals who have a learning disability, visual impairment or other physical disability, and who have provided documented evidence of a print disability <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">I am also a big fan of Librivox. ?Last semester I was at an elementary school and had what I called an audio book server. ?I just used the Gutenberg html versions with embedded audio of Librivox recordings. Using the web browser, the child clicked on the book and it started reading when the text and pictures came up. ?Kids liked it.</blockquote> Probably is a good online solution. I don't know how do this offline, because the recorded books a huge.</blockquote> This is one of the intended uses of School Servers. <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Can there be some sort of Sugar on a Stick version for dyslexic kids? ?I would definitely promote it and distribute it in Texas.</blockquote> </blockquote> We would probably not do a separate version, but would include accessibility in the base system. <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Probably is a good project, but need people with knowledge about dyslexic and time to create and maintain it.</blockquote> Nicholas Negroponte is dyslexic. We could talk to him about it. <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Thanks to all of you who are contributing. ?It's great!</blockquote> Thanks! I am only putting together the different pieces :) We know there are a lot of work to do. but I think we can create a solution in par or better than the commercialy offered. Gonzalo <blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%">Marilyn</blockquote> </blockquote> [Irrelevant messages snipped.] -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks</a> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></blockquote> <pre> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> End of IAEP Digest, Vol 38, Issue 60 ************************************ </pre> </blockquote> <div> </div> </body></html>