<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> following Martin's timely advice, may I please try again, so we can finish this with simple answers? the question is (or are) <ol> <li>is locking users out in compliance with current GPL?</li> <li>does Ceibal lock out users?</li> <li>is there a known procedure to get keys for Ceibal users? </li> <li>is Ceibal in compliance with current GPL?</li> <li>if no, who should follow up? the FSF? the Sugarlabs Board?</li> <li>were of-record (2, 3) Ceibal policies to continue, would it be in compliance with GPL3? </li> <li>if no, who should follow up? the FSF? the Sugarlabs Board? </li> </ol> I know that 2 and 3 are almost rhetorical, but in the interest of not building other questions as "loaded", I add them there. There even might be good news I am unaware of that someone who is better informed can offer! Thank you Yama On 04/23/2011 01:16 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:BANLkTim2WrbEgoBou6OaOX19X7gdM103Ww@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Folks -- one thing we need to be in good intellectual shape to handle loaded questions. Everyone here probably knows them well, but I just re-read <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question</a> and it was rather refreshing and useful. In general, if you don't know much about a topic, it is a good idea to *avoid* making inflammatory statements and accusations. You can ask, but please don't mix the valid questions with accusations or loaded questions. It doesn't help anyone. cheers, m </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>