<html><head><base href="x-msg://43/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF1314">Texto en Español sigue al Inglés</font></div><div><br></div>Alan and All,<div><br></div><div>this is a link to the Forest Fire project published by Yoshiki Ohshima in the <a href="http://Squeakland.org">Squeakland.org</a> showcase.</div><div><br></div><div>Many of us in these lists met him during his visit to Porto Alegre, Brazil to Squeakfest 2009.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7854">http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7854</a></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Alan Kay wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">The dynamics of this is pretty well modeled by using the "forest fire" particle simulation. Basically about 80% of the human population needs to feel that others around have already come to a conclusion before they will conclude. This inserts huge delays on ideas (sometimes 30 to over 100 years).<br><br>The forest fire particle simulation (originally done in Starlogo) allows you to choose the ratio of forest to clearings and start a fire to see if it propagates. One of these models requires at least 66% connectivity before the fire will spread.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Alan<br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF1314">Texto en Español:</font></div><div><br></div>Alan y Todos,<div><br></div><div>Este es un enlace al proyecto "Incendio Forestal" publicado por Yoshiki Ohshima en la Vitrina de <a href="http://Squeakland.org">Squeakland.org</a>:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7854">http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7854</a></div><div><br></div><div>Muchos de nosotros conocemos personalmente a Yoshiki de su visita a Porto Alegre, Brasil, cuando participó en Squeakfest Brasil 2009.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Alan Kay wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">La dinámica de esto está bastante bien modelada usando la simulación de partículas en "incendio forestal". Básicamente, alrededor del 80% de la población humana necesita sentir que otros a su alrededor han llegado a una conclusión, antes de que ellos lleguen a la misma conclusión. Esto inserta grandes demoras en [la aceptación de] ideas (a veces desde 30 a más de 100 años).<br><br>La simulación con partículas del incendio forestal (originalmente creada en Starlogo) te permite elegir la relación entre bosque y claros y comenzar un incendio para ver si se propaga. Uno de estos modelos requiere una conectividad [entre árboles] de por lo menos 66% antes de que se propague el fuego.<br><br>Saludos,<br><br>Alan</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF1314"><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Carlos Rabassa <<a href="mailto:carnen@mac.com">carnen@mac.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://squeakland.org">squeakland.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailing list <<a href="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:america-latina@squeakland.org">america-latina@squeakland.org</a>; Maho 2010 <<a href="mailto:maho@realness.org">maho@realness.org</a>>; IAEP SugarLabs <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>; voluntarios y administradores OLPC para usuarios docentes <<a href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a>>; olpc bolivia <<a href="mailto:olpc-bolivia@lists.laptop.org">olpc-bolivia@lists.laptop.org</a>>; OLPC Puno <<a href="mailto:olpcpuno@gmail.com">olpcpuno@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sun, February 6, 2011 12:42:28 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[IAEP] Etoys Particles/Partículas Challenge/Desafío<br></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#ff1314">English text follows the Spanish text</font></span></font><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Acabamos de leer este párrafo en un artículo de diario sobre por qué algunos mensajes de Twitter se propagan mucho y otros no:</span></font><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 40px; border-top-width: medium; border-right-width: medium; border-bottom-width: medium; border-left-width: medium; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">>> Resulta que la forma como se difunde la información [en los medios sociales] en línea es, frecuentemente, más complicada que transmisión viral.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Transmisión viral es el caso, por ejemplo, en que una persona envía un enlace a un video en YouTube directamente a otra persona. Mientras que lo que sucede con temas políticos, la gente usualmente espera hasta que cierto número de amigos o fuentes de confianza han promovido la idea, antes de promulgarla ellos. <<</span></font></div></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">El artículo completo:</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Times; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/business/06stream.html?emc=tnt&tntemail0=y">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/business/06stream.html?emc=tnt&tntemail0=y</a></span></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Sentimos podría ser un tema muy interesante para explicar con Etoys, usando el objeto "Partículas".</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">"Partículas" se encuentra en la página "básico" del "Catálogo de Objetos" en "Provisiones".</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Carlos Rabassa</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Voluntario</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Montevideo, Uruguay</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#ff1314">English text:</font></span></font></span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">We just read this paragraph in a newspaper article on why some Twitter posts catch on and some don´t:</span></font><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">>> </span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">It turns out that the way information spreads online is often more complicated than viral transmission, in which one person passes a link to, say, a YouTube v</span></font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">ideo directly to another person. As with political topics, people often wait until a number of friends or trusted sources have promoted an idea before promulgating it themselves. </span></font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><<</span></div></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">The complete article:</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Times; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/business/06stream.html?emc=tnt&tntemail0=y">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/business/06stream.html?emc=tnt&tntemail0=y</a></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">We feel it could be a very interesting subject to explain with Etoys, using the "Particles" object.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">"Partícles" is located in the "basic" page of the "Objects Catalog" in "Supplies".</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Carlos Rabassa</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Volunteer</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Plan Ceibal Support Network</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Montevideo, Uruguay</span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></font></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>