<html><head><base href="x-msg://77/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF1314">Texto en Español después del Inglés</font></span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Dear Dr. Kay,</span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Thanks for honoring my message with your reply.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I am one of your most enthusiastic fans and promoters of Etoys and other applications used here by Plan Ceibal.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">The most important point I tried to make got lost in my long message.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I see a problem in Uruguay:</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">I see too many teachers, relatives of schoolchildren and volunteers, concerned about learning Linux/Sugar.</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">That is good but, </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">it is difficult, particularly after after teaching class all day, to study Linux/Sugar and still have enough time and energy left to take full advantage of all the educational applications such as Etoys pre-installed in the XOs.</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">These wonderful applications have been written by the best teams of computer scientists and teachers in the world, and are ready and well debugged, waiting to be used extensively.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Your comments on this problem could mean invaluable help to many of us here in Uruguay and around the world.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Sincerely,</span></font></div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Carlos Rabassa</div><div>Volunteer</div><div>Plan Ceibal Support Network</div><div>Montevideo, Uruguay</div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 19, 20); font-size: 18px; ">Texto en Español:</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 19, 20); font-size: 18px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 19, 20); font-size: 18px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Apreciado Dr. Kay,</span></font></span><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Gracias por honrar mi mensaje con su respuesta.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Soy uno de sus más entusiastas admiradores y promotor de Etoys y otras aplicaciones usadas aquí por Plan Ceibal.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">El punto más importante que traté de expresar, se perdió en mi largo mensaje.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Veo un problema en Uruguay:</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Veo a demasiados maestros, familiares y voluntarios, preocupados por aprender Linux/Sugar.</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Eso es bueno pero, </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">es difícil, especialmente después de enseñar todo el día, estudiar Linux/Sugar y todavía tener suficiente tiempo y energía para sacar todo el provecho posible a todas las aplicaciones educativas, tales como Etoys, pre-instaladas en las XOs.</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Estas maravillosas aplicaciones han sido escritas por los mejores equipos de científicos de la computación y maestros del mundo, y están listos y bien depurados, esperando para que se usen extensivamente.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Sus comentarios sobre este problema serían de una ayuda invalorable para muchos de nosotros aquí en Uruguay y en el resto del mundo.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; ">Sincereamente,</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px; "><div style="font-size: medium; ">Carlos Rabassa</div><div style="font-size: medium; ">Voluntario</div><div style="font-size: medium; ">Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal</div><div style="font-size: medium; ">Montevideo, Uruguay</div></span></font></div></div></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 19, 20); font-size: 18px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 19, 20); font-size: 18px; "><br></span></div> <br><div><div>On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Alan Kay wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">GE is being congratulated for recognizing that the iPhone and iPad are pretty good ideas and technological realizations. But isn't this like the congratulations Bill Gates got for finally recognizing the Internet (about 25 years after it had started working)?<br><br>Seems as though Apple had a lot more on the ball than Bill Gates or GE here (they used to do computing in the 60s, but couldn't see what it was).<br><br>And most of the ideas at Apple (and for personal computing and the Internet) came from research funding that no company or government has been willing to do since 1982.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Alan<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Carlos Rabassa <<a href="mailto:carnen@mac.com">carnen@mac.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:america-latina@squeakland.org">america-latina@squeakland.org</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://squeakland.org">squeakland.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailing list <<a href="mailto:squeakland@squeakland.org">squeakland@squeakland.org</a>>; Maho 2010 <<a href="mailto:maho@realness.org">maho@realness.org</a>>; IAEP SugarLabs <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>; voluntarios y administradores OLPC para usuarios docentes <<a href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a>>; olpc bolivia <<a href="mailto:olpc-bolivia@lists.laptop.org">olpc-bolivia@lists.laptop.org</a>>; OLPC Puno <<a href="mailto:olpcpuno@gmail.com">olpcpuno@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sun, January 30, 2011 4:11:49 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[IAEP] Plan Ceibal y/and General Electric<br></font><br>We try to learn from those who have succeed for a long time:<br><br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1XWm2q8nQ-l5KUJ_PWkQruLDx-nZ7nsKDfg4idDlsU50" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1XWm2q8nQ-l5KUJ_PWkQruLDx-nZ7nsKDfg4idDlsU50</a><br><br>Carlos Rabassa<br>_______________________________________________<br>IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br><a ymailto="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></span><br></div></div></div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>