<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> The Dutch foundation is managing small OLPC pilots in 10 different countries. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openwijs.nl/referenties/olpc">http://www.openwijs.nl/referenties/olpc</a> Bitfrost would be very usefull but we could never find actual information about Bitfrost, only old information like the first link hereunder. Does Bitfrost really excist on the XO or not? Or only on XO's in large deployments? in Senegal we used the XS schoolserver for the first time, it just started a month ago With Moodle you can easily see what the children do with learning material in Moodle, privacy is not a problem in this way We discussed about the XS at TEDx in Brussels, with OLPC France members, Christoph Derndorfer and Frederik Questier of the Vrije Universiteit Brussel The idea of the XS is very nice although we, and OLPC France, had a lot of problems with installing it It works nice on a cheap PC (we were lucky?) as a server, although the manual is far from complete and the scripts are not always logical If you want an affordable but professional server with Raid 1 it was not yet possible for us to install it. Maybe it is better to use an universal Linux server protocol and write some scripts for the features we need? Not to produce a better XS schoolserver but an Open Schoolserver for universal use? (an idea of Frederik Questier) Moodle is not easy for people who use an electronic learning environment for the first time. Although our foundation offers also Moodle most of our clients choose Chamilo (former known as Dokeos) when they tested both systems. In a commercial view not nice for us because most of them don't need training to use it :( And that's a big compliment for Chamilo. Chamilo 2.0 will be even better, completely redesigned. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.chamilo.org/en/news/Chamilo%202.0%20beta%202%2C%20now%20available%20for%20download">http://www.chamilo.org/en/news/Chamilo%202.0%20beta%202%2C%20now%20available%20for%20download</a>! It would be nice to start a discussion with a test about this. If we would like to have also Chamilo on the Open Schoolserver the head developer Yannick Warnier is willing to give a lot of support to do this. with kind regards, Frits Hoff Op 10-12-2010 21:06, Sascha Silbe schreef: <blockquote cite="mid:1292010256-sup-5451@twin.sascha.silbe.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Excerpts from Teemu Leinonen's message of Thu Dec 09 10:31:02 +0100 2010: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Is it possible for a teachers to read (and comment) the student's Journals? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Actually it would be great if all the Journals on XO could be (by default) open for reading (and commenting) by everyone in the learning community / local, near by XO users. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> That would be the exact opposite of great and it's something Bitfrost intends to protect against [1,2]. The Journal is called thus for a reason: It records _everything_ the user did on the system (within Sugar, that is) and not just school-related work. If Journal entries are to be published, it needs to be on an opt-in basis, not opt-out. There has been some experimental work [3] to allow others to access your Journal (and a way to choose a license [4] for each entry), but nothing actually usable so far (AFAIK at least). Sascha [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#Compromising_privacy">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#Compromising_privacy</a> [2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#P_DOCUMENT:_file_store_service">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Bitfrost#P_DOCUMENT:_file_store_service</a> [3] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal%2C_reloaded">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal%2C_reloaded</a> [4] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creative_Commons">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creative_Commons</a> </pre> <pre wrap=""> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>