<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> <div>Hi All</div><div><br></div>This is great news! I will work on learning to do this when I get back to SoCal in Dec. Then I can share it with others at presentations, visits and the like. I really like the way Etoys-to-go can move from system to system. If this works even half as well, it will be big news.<div><br></div><div>Caryl (aka GrannieB, Carolina)<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:27:24 -0800<br>From: satellit@bendbroadband.com<br>To: raffael.reichelt@googlemail.com<br>CC: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>Subject: Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox<br><br> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=unicode"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft SafeHTML"> <br> <br> Raffael Reichelt wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:AANLkTi=EZDSkx4-kg-2YxHQzK0xRCF73KYSoRvg_pY_j@mail.gmail.com"> <pre>2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> </pre> <blockquote> <pre> Raffael; I just built a f14-Desktop 2nd USB using the same method and it boots fine on the MacBook Air. I then did "yum groupinstall sugar-desktop" and then "yum install sugar-emulator". (took 2 hrs because of the slowness of USB) Now I have a USB that will boot sugar or gnome via the gdm login. thanks for testing; Tom Gilliard Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satellit@bendbroadband.com"><satellit@bendbroadband.com></a> Running Soas files on a 2nd USB in Virtualbox 3.2 installed on the MacBook Air : In VirtualBox Make a "new" Virtualbox appliance where you specify the existing vmdk file on the 2nd USB as the Hard Disk. NOTE the same 4 GB USB; 2nd USB containing the students appliance files runs interchagably in BOTH VMPlayer and Virtualbox on Mac and PC.s This a very simple solution with [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmgVirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg" target="_blank">http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmgVirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg</a>] installed on your Mac. See: [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USBSoas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USBSoas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB</a>] I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either VMPlayer or Virtualbox. This may be why Virtualbox 3.2 now allows multiple expanding HD of 2 Gb slices. :: TESTED ON: :: Acer Aspire One Netbook Ubuntu 9.10 Virtualbox :: MacBook Air OSX Virtualbox :: Dell 520n Dektop PC Ubuntu 9.04 VMPlayer This means that the student has his individual copy of Soas on the USB stick and can open it on multiple computers and operating systems. This is not a live image but a full install to a virtual Harddisk. It should be much more robust. Plus the stick's contents can be copied any time as a backup. The application goes thru firstboot with the student's name and password required to access it. I think that this may be the solution we have been looking for. A compressed version of the Soas-v3 Appliance (before firstboot) is downloadable from <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance</a> Thomas Gilliard satellit ______________________________ _________________ SoaS mailing <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listSoaS@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas">listSoaS@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas</a> Raffael; Here are the specs I used: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas-v3-Mirabelle_no_firstboot.tar.bz2" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas-v3-Mirabelle_no_firstboot.tar.bz2</a> ->*Root Password=sugarroot*<_ Expanded and copied 8 files to USB* Built on this site:<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.easyvmx.com/" target="_blank">http://www.easyvmx.com/</a> CDhttp://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-3-mirabelle.iso Used Soas-v3-Mirabelle CD in VMplayer to install: Used liveinst in sugar-root terminal USB* Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmx (on 4GB Firefly USB) Formatted fat 16 Label=MIRABELLE Specs: Other Linux 2.6.x kernel Workstation 6.0 virtual machine 512 MB 1 Processor 4.7 GB HD CD/DVD (IDE) Auto Detect Network Adapter NAT Oracle Virtualbox 3.2.10 r66523 for OSX settings: OS: Linux/fedora 512 Base Memory 12 MB Video Memory Storage:Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk Slot SATA Port 0 Attached to Soas-v3-on 2nd USB Network Adapter 1 enabled NAT Works fine here. thanks for testing! Tom Gilliard satellit I tried it on my MacBookAir, OSX 10.6.5, VirtualBox 3.2.10 and it needed about 3 times booting undtil it worked (crashes during firstboot and logon). One Problem is there is a root password set and my user is not in sudoers. ------------------------------ ______________________________ _________________ SoaS mailing <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:listSoaS@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas">listSoaS@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas</a> Hello Tom! Thanks for the root password - I will test a little bit further. Let you know then ... Raffael Hello Thomas! </pre> </blockquote> <pre>Is there no way to boot a virtual machine physically from usb (virtualbox under OSX)? </pre> </blockquote> So far I have not found any way to boot a USB directly in OSX<br> Look at:<br> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB</a><br> <br> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2</a><br> (This is an experimental method I am working on,,,)<br> Uses this Boot helper Cd to boot Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB<br> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-4-boot-test.iso" target="_blank">http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-4-boot-test.iso</a><br> <br> HOW TO BUILD:<br> 1-) 4 GB USB created in Virtualbox 3.2 for OSX install of f14-desktop on a MacBook Air with liveusb-creator<br> (I have had problems using liveusb's created outside of OSX)<br> 2-) resulting live USB is then booted with Boot helper CD<br> yum install liveusb-creator<br> install Virtualbox3.2 for fedora <br> 3-) shutdown<br> 4-)insert USB into desktop PC running linux<br> 5-) Create .img file<br> dd if=(liveusb) of=Mac_F14_Vbox.img<br> 6-) Compress .img file <br> this is resulting file uplinked to Tgillard<br> <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2</a> <br> <br> Thus when you open Virtualbox 3.2 on the booted live USB and you can run Virtualbox pointing to a 2nd USB with the mirabelle no firstboot.vmdk files<br> <br> Note the Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB is quite complected and fragile as it is a live USB with persistence. !<br> <br> DO not try to use Virtualbox to build a appliance on this USB. It will fill up and stop working permanently! Only use files on 2nd USB.<br> <br> I suppose you could use a 8GB USB and "livinst" the f14-desktop to a USB (I have not tried this) this may have enough room to run one mirabelle appliance from the boot USB.<br> This USB MAY not boot under OSX though...Needs testing in future.<br> <br> Thanks for testing<br> <br> Tom Gilliard<br> satellit<br> <blockquote cite="mid:AANLkTi=EZDSkx4-kg-2YxHQzK0xRCF73KYSoRvg_pY_j@mail.gmail.com"> <pre>This would be really great. I saw some topics on this with vmware but until now could not find out how to prepare the stick. Regards, Raffael </pre> </blockquote> <br>_______________________________________________ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas</div> </body> </html>