Edward,<div><br></div><div>Thanks, please send me the outline and what you think needs to be more "easily discoverable" and I will work on it.</div><div><br>Stephen<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Edward Cherlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">It is true that you can do all of these things in EToys, if you know<br> where to start. It is also true that the start screen of EToys could<br> be improved by providing a path to each of them, and to other<br> education modules, and Etoys could be improved with a few more<br> introductory modules.<br> <br> Since children and untrained teachers cannot be expected to discover<br> these paths, and paths in other Activities, on their own, I am in the<br> middle of writing a guide to Discovery on the XO. The starting point<br> is my Wiki page,<br> <br> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable</a><br> <br> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick</a><br> The undiscoverable is an unofficial FAQ for tips, tricks, and<br> solutions to common problems that may otherwise be tricky to find.<br> These are being considered for inclusion in the official SoaS<br> documentation.<br> <br> The Etoys section needs vast expansion. I have an outline in mind,<br> which I can share with anybody who would like to work on it.<br> <div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 15:59, Tim McNamara <<a href="mailto:paperless@timmcnamara.co.nz">paperless@timmcnamara.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br> > The analogy doesn't quite fit, as it's possible to do complex things in all<br> > of those tools and it's easy to do simple things in EToys. Each Activity can<br> > be used in this learning model, e.g. training wheels to motorbike.<br> ><br> > Tim<br> ><br> > On 25 September 2010 05:48, Cherry Withers <<a href="mailto:cwithers@ekindling.org">cwithers@ekindling.org</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> And Scratch? ... don't remember where I read it, but it sounded logical<br> >> to me.<br> >> Use progressively difficult tools for progressively difficult tasks.<br> >> To confirm this statement, I add the phrase: "Visible learning, invisible<br> >> technology".<br> >> Children would first learn TurtleArt.<br> >> When they outgrow it switch to Scratch.<br> >> When all its possibilities are exhausted, continue with eToys.<br> ><br> </div></div>> _______________________________________________<br> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> --<br> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin<br> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.<br> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.<br> <a href="http://www.earthtreasury.org/" target="_blank">http://www.earthtreasury.org/</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></blockquote></div><br></div>