Just want to share this email from Daniel Gastelu, translated by Carlos Rabassa. Thank you!<br><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Just translated a message, from the spanish language forum OLPC-Uruguay.<div><br></div><div>Further down in this message you may see the original.</div><div><br></div><div>The author, Daniel Gastelú, is a High School Professor.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Daniel works in a Library in Canelones, Uruguay, to offer support to other teachers in the public high schools.</div><div><br>This message is his answer to the subject question, which we had posed in several forums.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Translation starts here</div><div>==================</div><div>And Scratch? ... don't remember where I read it, but it sounded logical to me.</div><div><br></div><div>
Use progressively difficult tools for progressively difficult tasks.</div><div><br></div><div>To confirm this statement, I add the phrase: "Visible learning, invisible technology".</div><div><br></div><div>Children would first learn TurtleArt.</div>
<div><br></div><div>When they outgrow it switch to Scratch.</div><div><br></div><div>When all its possibilities are exhausted, continue with eToys.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It is the same as with bicycles and motorcycles.</div>
<div><br></div><div>They start at home, in the backyard patio, with training wheels (TurtleArt).</div><div><br></div><div>They
continue on the street, in front of their home, with the bicycle
without the training wheels enjoying their independence (Scratch).</div><div><br></div><div>Once they learned enough about riding on the street, we allow them to ride the bike to the supermarket (eToys).</div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>May I make it clear I use the three programs.</div><div><br></div><div>I can compare them based on my own experience.</div><div><br></div><div>The idea in my opinion should not be to discuss whether it is easy or difficult for the teacher or for the student.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We should llook at the opportunities offered by the tool.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Would
any of the readers [of this forum] give a [motor driven] dune buggy to
his daughter for her 15th birthday if she cannot handle a bicycle?</div><div><br></div><div>In closing this brief message, I share the problem in Scratch.</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><br><a href="http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/egastelu/1299763" target="_blank">http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/egastelu/1299763</a><br></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote>
<div><br></div></div><div>"The problem" is the one others have resolved using a XO with SocialCalc or with Etoys:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://squeakland.org/launcher?http://squeakland.org/content/showcase/everyone/accounts/carlos/HowManyPizzas.005.pr" target="_blank">
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<h2 style="margin-bottom: 0pt;"><a href="http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=10264" target="_blank"><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">How Many Pizzas</span></font></a><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">
</span></font><span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;"> (2010-sep-07 18:35 EDT)</span></font></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">
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por
Carlos Rabassa based on ideas by Daniel Ajoy and Paolo Benini
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Resolving 2-variable equation </div><div><br></div><div>==================</div></div></div><div><div>Translation ends here</div><div><br></div></div><br><div>
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Carlos Rabassa</div><div>Volunteer</div><div>Plan Ceibal Support Network</div><div>Montevideo, Uruguay</div><div><br></div></span><br>
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<br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Daniel Gastelú <<a href="mailto:danielgastelu@yahoo.com.ar" target="_blank">danielgastelu@yahoo.com.ar</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">September 15, 2010 9:10:13 AM EDT<br>
</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Comunidad ceibalJAM <<a href="mailto:olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Re: [Olpc-uruguay] Etoys, es fácil o es difícil?</b><br>
</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'; font-size: medium;">Comunidad ceibalJAM <<a href="mailto:olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-uruguay@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
</span></div><br>Y
scratch?... no recuerdo donde lo leí, pero me pareció lógico;
herrameintas de complejidad progresiva para tareas de complejidad
progresiva. Y agrego; para confirmar la frase de "aprendizaje visible,
tecnología invisible". <br><br>Los niños/as aprenderìan primeramente
Tortugarte, cuando les quede chico pasarían a Scratch, y cuando Scratch
esté agotado en posibilidades pasarían a eToys? Es como las bicicletas y
motos. Primero en el patiod e casa y con rueditas (Tortugarte), luego
en la calle en frente a la casa con la bicicleta sin las rueditas de
ayuda y con independencia.(Scratch). Una vez que aprendió bastante a
moverse en la calle lo dejamos ir solo al supermercado en la bicicleta
(eToys). Aclaro que uso los tres softwares y puedo compararlos por
experiencia.<br><br>La idea para mi caso no es si es fácil o difícil
(para el educador o el alumno)
, sino que es ver la oportunidad de la herramienta. ¿Alguno de los
lectoresle regalaría un cuatriciclo a su hija para el cumple de 15 si
ella no sabe manejar una biicleta?<br><br>Cerrando este cortito mensaje, les comparto el problema como manipulable en Scratch.<br><a href="http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/egastelu/1299763" target="_blank">http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/egastelu/1299763</a><br>
<br>Slds.<br> <br>Daniel Gastelú<br><br><br>