<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually hacking sugar. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">This question is in the same ball-part. I’m trying to understand Sugar-FOSS and the philosophy </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">of debugging and the child’s role in this process. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">As I understand it, the term ‘Free’ in FOSS </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">means both free of cost (mostly –always??), and free as in learners are </span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">“in charge of their </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">educational environment” (Mako Hill, <span style="COLOR: #111111">29.04.08). </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #111111; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Or as stated on Sugar Labs: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>“</span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">What are the </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">benefits </span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">of using Sugar?</span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">-<span style="COLOR: black"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">An <a id="phrase8" name="phrase8">emphasis on learning through doing</a> and <u>debugging</u>: more engaged </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">learners are able to tackle authentic problems” (<a href="http://sugarlabs.org">sugarlabs.org</a>).</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">It doesn’t take long to see </span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Seymour Papert in all this. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">I’m wondering: </span></b></p>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">If a child as the learner is in charge of the learning environment, shouldn’t it be essential that </span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">the </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">child is doing the debugging (…in collaboration with others – students, teachers etc.)? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span></span> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">In my search for bugging/debugging in Sugar I found the ‘BugSquard/Bugreport’ on wiki.sugarlabs and it says: <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span></span> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">“If you're using <a title="Sugar on a Stick" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick"><span style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Sugar on a Stick</span></a> or another <a title="Supported systems" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems"><span style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">distribution of Sugar</span></a> and find something </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">specific you think could be improved—maybe something isn't working the way you think</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">it should work, or you have an idea for how something could be better—you can file a <b>ticket. </b></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">A ticket is a way for anyone to suggest to the software or project developers that <u>they should work</u> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">on something […]".</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">“[The tickets]” is the <i>most</i> important part—because reading the title of a ticket <u>is how a developer decides</u> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">if he or she is going to work on it”. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">I thought it was the child/sugar-user that should <u>decide on working on bugs/improvements</u>. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">As Papert says on debugging: “</span><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">Errors </span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">benefit us because they lead us to study what happen, </span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">to understand what went wrong, and, through understanding, to fix it” (Mindstorms - 1980 (1993): 114), </span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">which is essential for learning learning. </span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi"></span></font> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">I have trouble seeing the correspondence between the child/sugar-user taking charge, debugging </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">in Sugar-FOSS as a computational environment and a distant Sugar-developer deciding on </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">debugging or making improvements. To me the ticket doesn’t look like the child is taking charge. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi">I have 4 assumptions about this:</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">The BugSquard doesn’t mean that the sugar-user/child can’t be in charge and taking control </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">and doing own improvements and bug-fixing in Sugar-FOSS- environment. If a child wants to release </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Sugar 6.1 then by all means. The BugSquard is just there to help and assist the child/sugar-user who </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">doesn’t have the technical know-how to do improvements. </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Not everyone can release Sugar 6.1, 6.2 etc. That’s the mission of the Development Team. They…</span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"> </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">“build and maintain the core Sugar environment. This includes specifying and implementing new features </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">in conjunction with the <a title="Design Team" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team"><span style="COLOR: windowtext; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Design Team</span></a>, fixing bugs as they are found by the Testing team and the Sugar community […]” </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">(wiki.sugarlabs.org.). </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">3.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Debugging and improving Sugar-OS is different from debugging and programming as a learning-process</span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"> <em>in</em> a Sugar-activity like “</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Turtle Blocks”, which is the reason why..</span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">4.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">…it is possible to run Sugar-activities on Windows. It’s not possible to debug, improve, program and </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">hack Windows (not legally anyway). But you can still debug and program Turtle as a Sugar-activity that </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">runs on Windows. </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">If I’m right about assumption 2,3,4 then children doesn’t benefit from Sugar as a FOSS. That’s mainly </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">for Sugar-developers and the benefit of changing and reshaping Sugar for specific cultural needs i.e. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">languages, national curriculum-adaptation etc., a top-down-proces in a specific cultural context, that </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">exclude children’s points of view. more like a 'cultural empowerment'. </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN"></span> </div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Last assumption:</span></p>
<div class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">5.<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Children benefits from Sugar because it’s a specific designed learning environment, but children </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">(most of them) couldn’t care less about FOSS, and they are not in charge of the FOSS-environment. </span></div>
<div class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">They are in charge of the progamming and debugging Turtle not the Sugar-activity itself, </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Just some thoughts and reflections</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Please leave a comment or fill in some missing links. </span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-ansi-language: EN">Regards Soren </span></p>
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