Gerald.. good to hear from you!! I think your idea is great.. I imagine
something like learning plans JAM, like the ones developers host. I
will support you on that!!<br>
<br>
I also agree with Edward, they don't need to work alone. The greatest
experience may be a combination on teachers and some volunteers who
would be willing to help them with technical/practical stuff... I am up
for it!! Where do you imagine this?<br><br>Yama.. always impressed by your capacity to read and reply to conversations!! :)<br>Hope things will be ok!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Edward Cherlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">They won't have to get going completely on their own. There are more<br>
of us who barge in everywhere and offer help. I have been wanting to<br>
have many conversations with teachers for some time now. You can let<br>
teachers know that some of us are willing to help create Sugar-based<br>
lesson plans and software for any topic in any subject they teach, or<br>
to answer any question about teaching or learning with XOs and Sugar.<br>
We have several good Wiki pages for people starting out, depending on<br>
their interests and needs.<br>
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 19:49, Yama Ploskonka <<a href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com">yamaplos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Your question was to Claudia, but one of the many ways that endear people to<br>
> me is how quickly I barge in others' conversations :-)<br>
><br>
> One suggestion: if they want to connect, don't stop them! let them connect,<br>
> please!<br>
><br>
> There's a few semi-defunct email lists in English, for example Educators<br>
> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators</a><br>
> which were meant to have this kind of exchanges. If any of them speak<br>
> Spanish, please invite them to Sur, their presence would be very welcome<br>
> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur</a><br>
><br>
> They may have to get going by themselves at first, as we get to encourage<br>
> other teachers to come in. They can feel pioneers that way, and that is<br>
> good, for my experience with lists is that it can take quite a while to get<br>
> the dynamics of communication to become self-sustaining. I guess the people<br>
> from Quebec could also be in this, and those from Birmingham, and maybe even<br>
> some almost lost tribes in San Antonio and elsewhere, that might just need<br>
> something like this to start moving.<br>
><br>
> And of course they may come into IAEP itself.<br>
><br>
> Good initiative, please don't give up!<br>
><br>
> BTW, thanks for your comment, Claudia. It seems that the situation I was<br>
> concerned about might just hold long enough that it is no longer a problem.<br>
> 6 more days!<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Gerald Ardito <<a href="mailto:gerald.ardito@gmail.com">gerald.ardito@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Claudia,<br>
>><br>
>> I have been thinking about trying to write a grant to host a conference<br>
>> for teachers. The goals would be similar to the programming blitzes earlier<br>
>> on, where the teachers come together and create best practices, lesson<br>
>> plans, tips and techniques, etc.<br>
>><br>
>> I think the social piece is critical. We expect the students using<br>
>> Sugar/XOs to be social; the same is true, in my experience, of the teachers.<br>
>> At least the ones I am working with are really looking forward to connecting<br>
>> with other teachers.<br>
>><br>
>> What do you think?<br>
>><br>
>> Gerald<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Claudia Urrea <<a href="mailto:callaurrea@gmail.com">callaurrea@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I do believe that Ceibal presents a great opportunity to do great things.<br>
>>> It is a great opportunity... I believe we all want to be given the<br>
>>> opportunity to contribute.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The best way to get people to appropriate technology is to have them use<br>
>>> it in powerful ways. Yes, more documents are needed, but focusing only in XO<br>
>>> and Sugar, and expect students and children to get comfortable as a strategy<br>
>>> to get them to do the good things is not going to happen.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Teachers more than students need to good examples.. some have to do with<br>
>>> specific activities, and others with concepts that can be understood and<br>
>>> learned by using different activities. Creating examples that are always<br>
>>> part of a practical experience is good... even when introducing a particular<br>
>>> feature of the XO, or an activity.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yama.. i like your article in olpcnews!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Claudia<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:41, Yamandu Ploskonka <<a href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com">yamaplos@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> > Yesterday I spent way too much time trying to figure out the different<br>
>>>> > press<br>
>>>> > articles and opinion pieces in the internet around the delivery of the<br>
>>>> > "ceibalita" # 396.727, the "last" in Uruguay<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > the main thing: Congratulations!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Indeed.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> > the main thing: it's not enough<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > It is clear that the LATU team headed by Ing. Brechner has done an<br>
>>>> > almost<br>
>>>> > incredible job, and even though there are excellent teachers there<br>
>>>> > "giving<br>
>>>> > us lessons" internationally, even though there are highly dedicated<br>
>>>> > volunteers, the use of these machines in the classroom is not a solved<br>
>>>> > matter.<br>
>>>> > Even if the most extreme opinions (both ends) are fruit of political<br>
>>>> > interests, it is getting more and more clear that there is a lot of<br>
>>>> > work to<br>
>>>> > be done to make the XOs really a useful feature of the classroom<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > I say we need to focus on what is easy, to gain buy in by the majority<br>
>>>> > of<br>
>>>> > teachers<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > when using the XO in class is easier for the teacher than giving class<br>
>>>> > without the XO, we will have won<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Then we know how to win. I am proposing a guide for teachers on how to<br>
>>>> help students learn the XO, Sugar, and everything else with a minimum<br>
>>>> of effort and a maximum of results. Then, as Brian Berry has pointed<br>
>>>> out, we will need 10,000 topic modules with lesson plans, for every<br>
>>>> school subject at every age, translated into more than 100 languages.<br>
>>>> I have a plan for that, too, which I will tell you about later.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Let's start with the XO and Sugar. When we can get teachers and<br>
>>>> students comfortable with all of the features of the XO and Sugar in<br>
>>>> general, and with certain essential activities, we will be able to<br>
>>>> turn them loose on the Internet on any topic consisting primarily of<br>
>>>> information. The harder topics are skills such as math, the arts, and<br>
>>>> languages, where it is not enough to know. You must be able to _do_.<br>
>>>> But put that aside, for the moment, along with the learning modules.<br>
>>>> Let us think about what is required to get basic understanding and<br>
>>>> competence on an XO with Sugar.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have been collecting the principal obstacles, which are listed at<br>
>>>> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.og/go/The_Undiscoverable" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.og/go/The_Undiscoverable</a>. We need to think about<br>
>>>> the order imposed by dependencies, and put together a sequence of<br>
>>>> lessons covering all of these. I'm ready to get to it, and you are<br>
>>>> welcome to join in.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> > I may be wrong, and opinions are welcome<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > meanwhile, my article<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > <a href="http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/last_xo_laptop_olpc_uruguay.html" target="_blank">http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/last_xo_laptop_olpc_uruguay.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks. I've started reading it.<br>
>>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>>>> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin<br>
>>>> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.<br>
>>>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.earthtreasury.org/" target="_blank">http://www.earthtreasury.org/</a><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>><br>
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Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.<br>
The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.<br>
<a href="http://www.earthtreasury.org/" target="_blank">http://www.earthtreasury.org/</a><br>
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