<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Timothy Falconer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>We're translating most of the Squeakland (Etoys) website right now into Spanish and Portuguese, with French soon to come.</div><div><br></div><div>You can help too . . . simply claim your language and reply to this message (to avoid duplication), then read the following:</div><div><br></div><div><div><a href="http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-480">http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-480</a></div><div><div><a href="http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-481">http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-481</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>We're also writing some grants now, some of which are aimed at our translation efforts. </div><div><br></div><div>Given this, I'm trying to determine a good translation priority list, which shows the order of languages we want to focus on most. Yes, we'll get translations first from people that volunteer, and that won't always correspond to the priority list. But our time (and future hopeful funds) are limited, so we'd like to concentrate on the languages that will reach the most new and existing Etoys users.</div><div><br></div><div>To get the conversation started, here are the most popular languages in the world:</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">1. Chinese *</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">2. Spanish</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">3. English</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">4. Hindi *</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">5. Arabic *</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">6. Bengali *</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">7. Portuguese</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">8. Russian </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">9. Japanese</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">10. Korean </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">11. German</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">12. French</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">(from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers</a>, and several other sources)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Perhaps more telling is this list, which shows the number of wikipedia articles, which may be a better indicator of computer and web use:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">1. English</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">2. French</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">3. German</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">4. Spanish</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">5. Portuguese</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">6. Italian</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">7. Japanese</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">8. Russian</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">9. Dutch</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">10. Polish</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">11. Chinese</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">12. Swedish</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">(from <a href="http://s23.org/wikistats/wikipedias_html.php?sort=total_desc">http://s23.org/wikistats/wikipedias_html.php?sort=total_desc</a>)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">More direct to Etoys is our new list of "Squeakers", which has a graph at the bottom that shows number of users by country:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">1. United States (english/spanish)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">2. Germany (german)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">3. Uruguay (spanish)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">4. Brazil (portuguese)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">5. Canada (english/french)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">6. Argentina (spanish)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">7. Austria (german)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">8. Spain (spanish) </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">9. Colombia (spanish)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">10. Bolivia (spanish)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">11. Japan (japanese)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">12. Netherlands (dutch)</div></div><div><br></div><div>(from <a href="http://squeakland.org/squeakers/">http://squeakland.org/squeakers/</a> ... add your name and country!)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Clearly, these languages merit special effort:</div><div><br></div><div>1. English</div><div>2. Spanish</div><div>3. German</div><div>4. Portuguese</div><div>5. French</div><div><br></div><div>And these represent known areas of Etoys use:</div><div><br></div><div>6. Japanese</div><div>7. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Korean</span></div><div>8. Haitian Kreyol</div><div>9. Nepali</div><div><br></div><div>Three more to make a list of twelve:</div><div><br></div><div>10. Russian</div><div>11. Italian</div><div><div>12. Dutch</div><div><br></div></div><div>Do you agree with this list of twelve? What would you add? Where would you put it in the list, and why?</div><div><br></div><div>We of course want to have all languages represented someday, particularly the starred items in the first list. </div><div><br></div><div>We're simply trying to set our immediate goals, given limited time and resources.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div>Ah yes, forgot another criteria ... existing Etoys translations:<div><br></div><div>1. ENGLISH</div><div>2. Tamil</div><div>3. Sinhala</div><div>4. GERMAN </div><div>5. Pashto</div><div>6. Greek</div><div>7. Dari</div><div>8. SPANISH</div><div>9. Russian</div><div>10. Bengali</div><div>11. Mongolian</div><div>12. FRENCH</div><div>13. Turkish</div><div>14. Swedish</div><div>15. HAITIAN KREYOL</div><div>16. JAPANESE</div><div>17. Chinese</div><div>18. PORTUGUESE</div><div>19. Vietnamese</div><div>20. KOREAN</div><div>21. Urdu</div><div>22. ITALIAN</div><div>23. DUTCH</div><div>24. NEPALI</div><div>25. Slovak</div><div><br></div><div>(from <a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/etoys/">http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/etoys/</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>The capitalized ones are in my list of twelve.</div><div><br></div><div>
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