<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmschwar@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">bmschwar@fas.harvard.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>Sebastian Dziallas wrote:<br>
> So my vision is that this SoaS is actually *the* way of distributing<br>
> Sugar, as a SL product. If Sugar Labs doesn't think so, I'd have<br>
> preferred to be informed much earlier.<br>
<br>
</div>I don't think you're likely to find much support for that vision as<br>
phrased. I think this may just be a wording problem.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>SoaS has the potential to be a great way to provide access to computing in many settings. But its not the only way nor does it always make sense. For instance as Oscar <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, fantasy; ">Becerra,C<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, fantasy; ">hief educational Technologies Officer, </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy; ">Ministry of Education of Peru points out </span> "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy; ">it is impossible to run 50 watt fragile high skill maintenance machines like the netbooks in rural villages that are weeks away from any form of civilization." <a href="http://www.undispatch.com/node/8859#comment-346">http://www.undispatch.com/node/8859#comment-346</a></span></span></span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy">I also think its vital in the long term for SoaS to be compatible with LTSP like solution for school computer labs, while still allowing children to boot directly from their stick on a standalone, no internet computer at home. That is part of my vision for SoaS.</font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy">My dream is that Sugar is a platform that lets people around the world and from various contexts work together on content, activities and pedagogy and learn together how to use computers as effective, and cost effective, learning tools.</font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy">I want SoaS to expand that learning community into places that have existing computer hardware, I don't want it to be a divider. Yes, we need to organize our technical work efficiently. But when that is done lets be sure that educators and volunteers and the press see Sugar as one thing that they can contribute to and help children both near and far, in developing and developed countries, to learn to learn.</font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, -webkit-fantasy" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><br>
</span></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Some people here have distributed Sugar on hand-tuned hardware-specific<br>
customized disk images. Some have distributed it using distro packages,<br>
to be installed directly on pre-existing Linux installations. Some have<br>
built emulator images, installed, configured, and ready to run on any OS.<br>
Some have configured Sugar to run on thick NFS clients, or thin LTSP clients.<br>
<br>
SoaS is a great way to distribute Sugar, but it will certainly never be<br>
"*the* way", as long as all these other people are around, working hard on<br>
other distribution mechanisms.<br>
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