Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am very interested in the help activity but falling behind. Is there a wiki page or better yet a LaunchPad Blueprint where we can collaborate and I can catch up on the current status?</div><div><br> </div><div>I wrote one after the Paris Camp but Its not clear that its been updated to reflect this conversation.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help</a></div> <div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Caroline<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dirakx@gmail.com">dirakx@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Tomeu.<br> <div class="im"><br> <br> <br> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz<br> > Guerrero<<a href="mailto:dirakx@gmail.com">dirakx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >> i agree with yama.<br> >><br> >><br> >> Would be ok to put help icon<br> >> directly on the main frame ?<br> ><br> > You mean the frame or the favorites view?<br> <br> </div>I meant the frame.<br> <div class="im"><br> For older users with better<br> > trackpads and bigger screens, they may need help to find the frame ;)<br> <br> </div>right. favorites view will be better then,<br> <div class="im"><br> <br> >> and also transform it to connect directly with for example tools like<br> >> launchpad, track and <a href="http://idea.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">idea.sugarlabs.org</a> ?.<br> ><br> > Any ideas about what the UI would look like?<br> <br> </div>Not much, i'm not a good ui designer.=).<br> <div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br> <br> <br> > Thanks,<br> ><br> > Tomeu<br> ><br> >><br> >><br> >> Rafael Ortiz<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka<<a href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com">yamaplos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >>> what about seeding Sugar with a more appealing access to Help, also in<br> >>> such a way that it also encourages feedback?<br> >>><br> >>> (I already had pointed that the access to help has to be more visible to<br> >>> be useful, and then part of its functioning would be to encourage actual<br> >>> users to speak)<br> >>><br> >>> Yama<br> >>><br> >>> Walter Bender wrote:<br> >>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso<<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br> >>>><br> >>>>> Hi,<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> would like to propose a meeting to talk about how deployments can<br> >>>>> provide better feedback and how we can process it so developers and<br> >>>>> the rest of Sugar Labs can prioritize their work accordingly.<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> How does it sound?<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> Thanks,<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> Tomeu<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> --<br> >>>>> ŤSugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar.<br> >>>>> What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.ť - David<br> >>>>> Farning<br> >>>>> _______________________________________________<br> >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> >>>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> >>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> >>>>><br> >>>>><br> >>>><br> >>>> Alas, this is the sort of mindset we are working with:<br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>>> Walter,<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> We have continued working closely with the pilot school and have<br> >>>>> gotten a lot of insight into what the teachers want/need. Right now<br> >>>>> our calendar is pretty full so joining IRC meetings isn't really<br> >>>>> feasible. We will, however, pass on requests when it seems like<br> >>>>> there's a demand for something to help make the Sugar more<br> >>>>> relevant in the classroom.<br> >>>>><br> >>>>> I hope that there will be more useful information come out of the<br> >>>>> NSF funded ICAC (Integrating Computing Across the Curriculum)<br> >>>>> grant that we are a part of. It will disseminate information related<br> >>>>> to findings in the schools and we'll be glad to let you know in<br> >>>>> advance when publications become available.<br> >>>>><br> >>>><br> >>>> Not convinced that better reporting tools are going to help with<br> >>>> attitudes such as this. We need a way to get past the deployment<br> >>>> gatekeepers and the academics and talk directly with teachers and<br> >>>> students.<br> >>>><br> >>>> -walter<br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>>><br> >>> _______________________________________________<br> >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> >>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> >>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> >>><br> >><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > ŤSugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar.<br> > What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.ť - David<br> > Farning<br> > _______________________________________________<br> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> ><br> _______________________________________________<br> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br><br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br> </div>