Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am very interested in the help activity but falling behind. Is there a wiki page or better yet a LaunchPad Blueprint where we can collaborate and I can catch up on the current status?</div><div><br>
</div><div>I wrote one after the Paris Camp but Its not clear that its been updated to reflect this conversation.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Caroline<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dirakx@gmail.com">dirakx@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi Tomeu.<br>
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz<br>
> Guerrero<<a href="mailto:dirakx@gmail.com">dirakx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> i agree with yama.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Would be ok to put help icon<br>
>> directly on the main frame ?<br>
><br>
> You mean the frame or the favorites view?<br>
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</div>I meant the frame.<br>
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For older users with better<br>
> trackpads and bigger screens, they may need help to find the frame ;)<br>
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</div>right. favorites view will be better then,<br>
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>> and also transform it to connect directly with for example tools like<br>
>> launchpad, track and <a href="http://idea.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">idea.sugarlabs.org</a> ?.<br>
><br>
> Any ideas about what the UI would look like?<br>
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</div>Not much, i'm not a good ui designer.=).<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Tomeu<br>
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>><br>
>><br>
>> Rafael Ortiz<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka<<a href="mailto:yamaplos@gmail.com">yamaplos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> what about seeding Sugar with a more appealing access to Help, also in<br>
>>> such a way that it also encourages feedback?<br>
>>><br>
>>> (I already had pointed that the access to help has to be more visible to<br>
>>> be useful, and then part of its functioning would be to encourage actual<br>
>>> users to speak)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yama<br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter Bender wrote:<br>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso<<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> would like to propose a meeting to talk about how deployments can<br>
>>>>> provide better feedback and how we can process it so developers and<br>
>>>>> the rest of Sugar Labs can prioritize their work accordingly.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> How does it sound?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Tomeu<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar.<br>
>>>>> What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David<br>
>>>>> Farning<br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Alas, this is the sort of mindset we are working with:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Walter,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> We have continued working closely with the pilot school and have<br>
>>>>> gotten a lot of insight into what the teachers want/need. Right now<br>
>>>>> our calendar is pretty full so joining IRC meetings isn't really<br>
>>>>> feasible. We will, however, pass on requests when it seems like<br>
>>>>> there's a demand for something to help make the Sugar more<br>
>>>>> relevant in the classroom.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I hope that there will be more useful information come out of the<br>
>>>>> NSF funded ICAC (Integrating Computing Across the Curriculum)<br>
>>>>> grant that we are a part of. It will disseminate information related<br>
>>>>> to findings in the schools and we'll be glad to let you know in<br>
>>>>> advance when publications become available.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Not convinced that better reporting tools are going to help with<br>
>>>> attitudes such as this. We need a way to get past the deployment<br>
>>>> gatekeepers and the academics and talk directly with teachers and<br>
>>>> students.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -walter<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
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> --<br>
> «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar.<br>
> What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David<br>
> Farning<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br>
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