I think Walter is taking the weekend off. He is doing the actual negotiations with <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">IFL</span>. I'm sure we'll hear from him on Monday with a definitive answer.<br> <br> But my definitely understanding is that <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">IFL</span> is going to DONATE the content. The $50 to $100 is for the hardware. People with <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">XOs</span> and Sugar don't need the hardware.<br> <br> I am only interested in this project if the content is free and that is my understanding of how its going to work. If I'm confused then I'm really sorry sorry.<br> <br> I think I've got it right though. I've worked with nonprofit education organizations as part of Solution Grove's work. Specifically when I worked with Concord Consortium part of the grant process is you have to have a plan for how what you are creating with the grant money will reach a large number of children. Concord Consortium puts pretty much everything they create up on the web open source. If organizations like Concord can say they will reach hundreds of thousands of kids by <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">sugarizing</span> their activities and putting it up activities.<span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">sl</span>.o then I think they will start writing that into their proposals. Understand that this won't happen overnight. First we have to prove its a way to reach kids, then the nonprofits and granting organizations have to notice, then the new proposals with <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">sugarizing</span> have to get written, accepted, completed.<br> <br> So based on my experience, its a good business decision for <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">IFL</span> to give Sugar <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">thier</span> content for free if it means they can say on their next grant that the work they have done previously has reached a million kids.<br> <br> Also their $100 little box was innovative and cheap a couple years ago. One of the profs from Standford who works on this project spoke to one of my classes, his current interests are around getting educational content on even cheaper devices such as cell phones and used gaming devices, like the <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" class="goog-spellcheck-word">gameboy</span>.<br> <br> Sorry not to be clearer on the fact I believe we are going to get this content for free with freedom to distribute.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Caryl Bigenho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div> Hi Caroline,<br><br>I agree that content is something we desperately need for Sugar and the XO. But, I don't quite understand your proposal. Is Innovations For Learning offering us their software for free to adapt? If so, what language is it in? Is the source code available?</div> </blockquote><div><br>We have copies of the Gnash based activities and Tomeu has gotten them working on Sugar. <br></div><div><br>I assume they will give us the source code for the server based .exe. The fact its currently a .exe is not that promising for reuse. <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br><br>Or, is this something you think our volunteer programmers should try to reverse-engineer and create for Sugar and the XO?</div> </blockquote><div><br>Yes, or more likely for the XS. My first thought on how to approach it is to rewrite the server/teacher software as a Moodle plugin. But that is not the only possible approach. <br></div><div><br> </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br><br>Caryl<br><br><hr>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:27:28 -0400<br>From: <a href="mailto:caroline@solutiongrove.com" target="_blank">caroline@solutiongrove.com</a><br> To: <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>; <a href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">server-devel@lists.laptop.org</a>; <a href="mailto:support-gang@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">support-gang@lists.laptop.org</a><br> Subject: [support-gang] An Opportunity to bring vital content to the Sugar/XO world - Needs technical help.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><span>We have an opportunity to bring a program of K-2 English Reading and Math content to our Sugar users for free.<br> <br><a href="http://www.innovationsforlearning.org/software_demo.php" target="_blank">http://www.innovationsforlearning.org/software_demo.php</a><br> <br>Ignore the teachermate hardware and the $100 a machine price tag. The concept is we make this available for Sugar for free. So if you have XOs or a machines you can use with Sugar on a Stick, you can use it for free.<br> <br>If you watch the Classroom management video you'll see they have aligned it to major Basal Curriculum programs or it can be used without. It can differentiate instruction for groups and students. This is vital functionality. We need to port this to the Sugar world, probably by putting it on the XS, maybe as a module in Moodle.<br> <br>Tomeu has done some work on making the activities work in Sugar, but I don't think anyone has looked at how we enable classroom management.<br><br>Why I think this is important:<br><br></span><ul><li><span>When I listen to feedback from the deployments, they all talk about the need for content.</span></li> <li><span>When I see for myself what its like to use Sugar in a school, I think we need an on-ramp for teachers. This program would be an easy way to get the teachers to start using Sugar and computers without going very far outside of what they already know. Its aligned with the major curriculum programs they are already using. My belief is if they take the first step, and use Sugar, they and their students will explore further. Too much technology sits in the classroom closet. This seems like it would be used by lots of teachers, not just the most technological ones.</span></li> <li><span>This could be a model for other nonprofits for how to use Sugar to distribute content they have created for our age level.</span></li><li><span>It would be an excellent selling point for teachers trying to bring Sugar into their schools.</span></li> </ul>Please help us find someone (or a team) who has time and skills to tackle the technical challenge of porting/recreating the classroom management component.<br><br>Thanks!<br>Caroline<br><span></span><br clear="all"> <br> -- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br><br>617-500-3488 - Office<br> 505-213-3268 - Fax<br></div></div></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br> <br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br>