I think the only activities that cannot be updated are the Fructose ones, which are installed in /usr/share/sugar/activities. If you remove them and restart Sugar, you can then install updates. I believe this is discussed in depth in one of the RPM-related threads and probably has a ticket associated with it already.<br>
<br>-walter<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:29, Caroline Meeks<<a href="mailto:solutiongrove@gmail.com">solutiongrove@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> We will be reburning the sticks on Monday to get a new version of Turtle Art<br>
> on. Some of the core activities can't be updated via<br>
> <a href="http://Activities.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Activities.sugarlabs.org</a>. This is a bug we should fix.<br>
<br>
</div>Do we have a ticket? It should mention which/some activities cannot be updated.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
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Tomeu<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
> Please let us know if there are any other things you think we should do or<br>
> add to the stick. I know there is talk about Jabber_IDs all being the same<br>
> being part of our collaboration issue so we'll probably get rid of those<br>
> too.<br>
><br>
> Did we have one stick failure or did everyone's sticks eventually work?<br>
><br>
> For the first day we had everyones computer all set up and booted and we<br>
> used extension cables. This time we had the kids plug the USBs directly<br>
> into the front of the machines then turn the machines on. Some needed help<br>
> with this as the USB ports are very annoying on these computers. Once the<br>
> boot started we had them goto the rug and Walter talked while the machines<br>
> booted. Next time we should try to time the amount of time it takes from<br>
> walking into the room to everyone's computer is booted. This is critical<br>
> number for use in schools.<br>
><br>
> This project, using Turtle Art to label maps with the activities they are<br>
> doing this summer is going to be very interesting. For instance, the kids<br>
> have not been exposed to coordinate systems before. They are definitely<br>
> being challenged and having to develop new ways of thinking which is what we<br>
> want. They are defintiely engaged and motivated so I think they will be<br>
> able to do it. The teachers had a clear theme for the summer (community)<br>
> and themes for each week. I think that helped us find a good project.<br>
><br>
> The projector works well for teaching. I wonder if the XO deployments would<br>
> be well served by a "Projector Activity" where one person could share their<br>
> screen with the rest of the class. It could be used by the teacher or for<br>
> students to do the equivlent of going up to the board to work a problem for<br>
> the class. At the GPA, with the setup we have, having the kids come to the<br>
> center rug and using the actual projector and a laptop is probably better<br>
> for us.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> One addendum:<br>
>><br>
>> By default, Turtle Art stores numbers as real (floating point) and so the<br>
>> labels on the number line were printing with a decimal point and one<br>
>> trailing zero. This really confused the students, who don't know about<br>
>> decimal notation. I've made a change to the print and show functions to only<br>
>> show decimal places for real numbers that are not equal to integers. This<br>
>> will be part of the next release, some time over the weekend.<br>
>><br>
>> -walter<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Anurag Goel <<a href="mailto:agoel23@gmail.com">agoel23@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here are some notes I took from today's session at GPA:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We got there around 10 a.m to set up all the computers, the projector,<br>
>>> and debug collaboration (still isn't working properly).<br>
>>><br>
>>> The kids came in around 11:30 and as usual sat on the rug in the middle<br>
>>> of the room. Walter told the kids the today we will be using Turtle Art to<br>
>>> work with number lines. Walter then showed some of the basic functions of<br>
>>> Turtle Art. Walter showed the kids how to change colors by inputting<br>
>>> different numbers into the Set Color box. Surprisingly none of the kids<br>
>>> questioned why we couldn't see what color we were selecting before we<br>
>>> actually select it. Perhaps we should allow kids to see what color they are<br>
>>> selecting, similar to how they select a color in Paint?<br>
>>><br>
>>> One kid asked, "how about the number 92?" Walter inputted the number 92<br>
>>> into the set color box and the kids were surprised as the turtle starts<br>
>>> drawing in a purple color.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Next Walter showed how to set pensize.<br>
>>> Kid: can you do 1000?<br>
>>> Kids scream in excitement as the entire screen turns into an orange color<br>
>>> Walter plays around with other numerical values ranging from from 16 all<br>
>>> the way to 2009<br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter created a number line in Turtle Art in increments of 100.<br>
>>> Turtle starts at 0, goes to 100, 200, 300.<br>
>>> Next walter uses the back button to make the turtle go backwards in<br>
>>> increments of 100 until the turtle is back at 0.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter showed the kids how to print the value of the current<br>
>>> x-coordinate.<br>
>>> Kid asked how can we make the number smaller. Walter changed the text<br>
>>> size using set text size. He changed it to something really small. Kids<br>
>>> says, “now it’s tiny” same kids asks Walter to type her name on the screen.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter asked the kids to play around with text, forward, backward, line<br>
>>> thickness, and colors. Kids then leave the carpet to go to the computers.<br>
>>> One of the kids changed his XO color but after doing changing it the<br>
>>> computer would reboot and go to the Fedora login screen, instead of<br>
>>> rebooting directly to sugar. After pressing Enter, Sugar booted.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kids seemed to be getting a better understanding of how Turtle Art works<br>
>>> in comparison to Tuesday. I noticed that kids were easily able to get rid of<br>
>>> blocks they did not want and move the Turtle back to the center of the<br>
>>> screen when they wanted to start over. I think the introduction at the<br>
>>> beginning of today's session was really beneficial for the students because<br>
>>> it gave them some kind of direction.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter brought students back to the carpet to get their attention. Walter<br>
>>> asked, "Does everyone know what a map is?"<br>
>>> Kids: “YEAAA”<br>
>>> Walter showed kids a map of the Charles River on Turtle art.<br>
>>> Kid: How did you make that map appear?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter: I will explain that to you a little later.<br>
>>> Walter used the print-ycor and print-xcor buttons to show the kids how to<br>
>>> determine the x and y coordinates of the turtles current location. Walter<br>
>>> then used the Show block to write Gardner School where it was located on the<br>
>>> map. He then placed a Cartesian coordinate system on the map and used the<br>
>>> setyx block to show the students how the turtle can be placed on different<br>
>>> parts of the map such as the Gardner School and the Charles River<br>
>>> Reservation. Previously the kids assumed the setyx block was only to bring<br>
>>> the turtle back to the center of the screen.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Walter then showed the kids how to load a picture/map into Turtle Art.<br>
>>> Walter put a satellite map of the Gardner School and surrounding area into<br>
>>> Turtle Art.<br>
>>> Kids: “whoa”<br>
>>> Walter: "Now we will play with the map and label different things on the<br>
>>> map"<br>
>>><br>
>>> However, by this time it was time for the kids to leave the computer lab<br>
>>> so they never actually got a chance to use Turtle Art to move around in the<br>
>>> map and label different sections. Perhaps we will continue with this<br>
>>> activity next week. The kids are supposed to go to the Charles River<br>
>>> tomorrow for a field trip. We are hoping the teachers will upload pictures<br>
>>> of the field trip online so we can use them next week in the Memorize<br>
>>> activity.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Anurag Goel<br>
>>><br>
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>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Walter Bender<br>
>> Sugar Labs<br>
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>><br>
>><br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
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> Solution Grove<br>
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><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Walter Bender<br>Sugar Labs<br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br><br>