I think the only activities that cannot be updated are the Fructose ones, which are installed in /usr/share/sugar/activities. If you remove them and restart Sugar, you can then install updates. I believe this is discussed in depth in one of the RPM-related threads and probably has a ticket associated with it already. -walter <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 03:29, Caroline Meeks<<a href="mailto:solutiongrove@gmail.com">solutiongrove@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > We will be reburning the sticks on Monday to get a new version of Turtle Art > on. Some of the core activities can't be updated via > <a href="http://Activities.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Activities.sugarlabs.org</a>. This is a bug we should fix. </div>Do we have a ticket? It should mention which/some activities cannot be updated. Thanks, Tomeu <div><div></div><div class="h5"> > Please let us know if there are any other things you think we should do or > add to the stick. I know there is talk about Jabber_IDs all being the same > being part of our collaboration issue so we'll probably get rid of those > too. > > Did we have one stick failure or did everyone's sticks eventually work? > > For the first day we had everyones computer all set up and booted and we > used extension cables. This time we had the kids plug the USBs directly > into the front of the machines then turn the machines on. Some needed help > with this as the USB ports are very annoying on these computers. Once the > boot started we had them goto the rug and Walter talked while the machines > booted. Next time we should try to time the amount of time it takes from > walking into the room to everyone's computer is booted. This is critical > number for use in schools. > > This project, using Turtle Art to label maps with the activities they are > doing this summer is going to be very interesting. For instance, the kids > have not been exposed to coordinate systems before. They are definitely > being challenged and having to develop new ways of thinking which is what we > want. They are defintiely engaged and motivated so I think they will be > able to do it. The teachers had a clear theme for the summer (community) > and themes for each week. I think that helped us find a good project. > > The projector works well for teaching. I wonder if the XO deployments would > be well served by a "Projector Activity" where one person could share their > screen with the rest of the class. It could be used by the teacher or for > students to do the equivlent of going up to the board to work a problem for > the class. At the GPA, with the setup we have, having the kids come to the > center rug and using the actual projector and a laptop is probably better > for us. > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> > wrote: >> >> One addendum: >> >> By default, Turtle Art stores numbers as real (floating point) and so the >> labels on the number line were printing with a decimal point and one >> trailing zero. This really confused the students, who don't know about >> decimal notation. I've made a change to the print and show functions to only >> show decimal places for real numbers that are not equal to integers. This >> will be part of the next release, some time over the weekend. >> >> -walter >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Anurag Goel <<a href="mailto:agoel23@gmail.com">agoel23@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>> >>> Here are some notes I took from today's session at GPA: >>> >>> We got there around 10 a.m to set up all the computers, the projector, >>> and debug collaboration (still isn't working properly). >>> >>> The kids came in around 11:30 and as usual sat on the rug in the middle >>> of the room. Walter told the kids the today we will be using Turtle Art to >>> work with number lines. Walter then showed some of the basic functions of >>> Turtle Art. Walter showed the kids how to change colors by inputting >>> different numbers into the Set Color box. Surprisingly none of the kids >>> questioned why we couldn't see what color we were selecting before we >>> actually select it. Perhaps we should allow kids to see what color they are >>> selecting, similar to how they select a color in Paint? >>> >>> One kid asked, "how about the number 92?" Walter inputted the number 92 >>> into the set color box and the kids were surprised as the turtle starts >>> drawing in a purple color. >>> >>> Next Walter showed how to set pensize. >>> Kid: can you do 1000? >>> Kids scream in excitement as the entire screen turns into an orange color >>> Walter plays around with other numerical values ranging from from 16 all >>> the way to 2009 >>> >>> Walter created a number line in Turtle Art in increments of 100. >>> Turtle starts at 0, goes to 100, 200, 300. >>> Next walter uses the back button to make the turtle go backwards in >>> increments of 100 until the turtle is back at 0. >>> >>> Walter showed the kids how to print the value of the current >>> x-coordinate. >>> Kid asked how can we make the number smaller. Walter changed the text >>> size using set text size. He changed it to something really small. Kids >>> says, “now it’s tiny” same kids asks Walter to type her name on the screen. >>> >>> Walter asked the kids to play around with text, forward, backward, line >>> thickness, and colors. Kids then leave the carpet to go to the computers. >>> One of the kids changed his XO color but after doing changing it the >>> computer would reboot and go to the Fedora login screen, instead of >>> rebooting directly to sugar. After pressing Enter, Sugar booted. >>> >>> Kids seemed to be getting a better understanding of how Turtle Art works >>> in comparison to Tuesday. I noticed that kids were easily able to get rid of >>> blocks they did not want and move the Turtle back to the center of the >>> screen when they wanted to start over. I think the introduction at the >>> beginning of today's session was really beneficial for the students because >>> it gave them some kind of direction. >>> >>> Walter brought students back to the carpet to get their attention. Walter >>> asked, "Does everyone know what a map is?" >>> Kids: “YEAAA” >>> Walter showed kids a map of the Charles River on Turtle art. >>> Kid: How did you make that map appear? >>> >>> Walter: I will explain that to you a little later. >>> Walter used the print-ycor and print-xcor buttons to show the kids how to >>> determine the x and y coordinates of the turtles current location. Walter >>> then used the Show block to write Gardner School where it was located on the >>> map. He then placed a Cartesian coordinate system on the map and used the >>> setyx block to show the students how the turtle can be placed on different >>> parts of the map such as the Gardner School and the Charles River >>> Reservation. Previously the kids assumed the setyx block was only to bring >>> the turtle back to the center of the screen. >>> >>> >>> Walter then showed the kids how to load a picture/map into Turtle Art. >>> Walter put a satellite map of the Gardner School and surrounding area into >>> Turtle Art. >>> Kids: “whoa” >>> Walter: "Now we will play with the map and label different things on the >>> map" >>> >>> However, by this time it was time for the kids to leave the computer lab >>> so they never actually got a chance to use Turtle Art to move around in the >>> map and label different sections. Perhaps we will continue with this >>> activity next week. The kids are supposed to go to the Charles River >>> tomorrow for a field trip. We are hoping the teachers will upload pictures >>> of the field trip online so we can use them next week in the Memorize >>> activity. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anurag Goel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> > > > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > Caroline@SolutionGrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> > </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a>