Hi again Gaurav!<div><br></div><div>I suggest that those interested in this topic subscribe to this discussion thread on <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a>.</div> <div><br></div><div>I couldn't wait to reference your diagram, so I loaded a copy at <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Social_Communication_System.jpg">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Social_Communication_System.jpg</a></div> <div>referenced at <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization</a> and <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization</a>.</div> <div><br></div><div>I suggest we post the graphical tools and elements at the <a href="http://laptop.org">laptop.org</a> wiki so we can take advantage of the wiki extensions there and deploy OLPC-related work there. The Sugar Labs wiki would be the place to continue the broader Sugar-related work.</div> <div><br></div><div>I've started an outline for contributors to start submitting ideas at <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization</a>.</div> <div><br></div><div>Note also the work of a team at San Francisco State University, <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Information_Systems_Analysis_and_Design_Project">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Information_Systems_Analysis_and_Design_Project</a>,</div> <div>and <a href="http://n2.nabble.com/-Marketing--Information-flow-problem-tc2885268.html">http://n2.nabble.com/-Marketing--Information-flow-problem-tc2885268.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you again for contributing!</div> <div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gaurav_b@nid.edu">gaurav_b@nid.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hi Frederick,<div><br></div><div>I have been a stuck at work off late, will update the wiki with my raw material (icons, etc.) soon. </div><div><br></div><div>At the same time, it would be good to get ideas from you guys on the categorization and naming of the various collaboration points on the diagram, so by the time I get free, we may have some thoughts on restructuring the diagram I had sent. They could be in a document, a rough flowchart sketch, etc. </div> <div><br></div><div>How do you think we could go about this, and who all can actively contribute to this?</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry about the delay in posting on the wiki. Will do it by this weekend.</div><div><br></div> <div>Regards,</div><div>Gaurav</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Frederick Grose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Gaurav and all,<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;border-collapse:collapse;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> seems like the best place to continue this discussion thread.</span></div> <div><font size="4"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br> </span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">Thank you all for recognizing the potential in this project.</span></font></div> <div><font size="4"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br> </span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">I've started these pages, <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization</a>, & <span style="border-collapse:separate;font-size:15px;white-space:normal"><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization</a> <span style="font-size:14px;border-collapse:collapse;white-space:pre-wrap">for our combined collaboration.</span></span></span></font></div> <div><font size="4"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br> </span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">We can take advantage of the <span style="border-collapse:separate;font-size:15px;white-space:normal"><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Wiki#ImageMap" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Wiki#ImageMap</a> resource immediately, so please upload the graphic images initially to <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Special:Upload" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Special:Upload</a>. (This project will justify adding the extension to the Sugar Labs wiki soon.)</span></span></font></div> <div><br></div><div>Please contribute content ideas and suggestions here and at either wiki. This will be a good stimulus to visually clarify the tight relationship between OLPC and Sugar Labs as well.</div><div><br></div> <div>Best wishes, --Fred</div><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Gaurav Bhushan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gaurav@schmizz.net" target="_blank">gaurav@schmizz.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>Thanks Sameer for forwarding the conversation to me, I was not on the IAEP and Marketing lists so far, just joined.</div> <div><br></div><div>> It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary<br> > and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive<br>> 'map' for the project.<br><br></div><div>David, I would love to work on this further and collaborate with Fred, Christian, Eben and Gary to shape it into an interactive map for the project. My skill sets lie in graphics and visualization, and can help you guys take it to that level with some help in the technical implementation. </div> <div><br>> FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for<br>> naming and categorization:)<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am keen on making any changes that are needed to the naming and categorization :) I realize it is still very crude, but I think it is in shape now to trigger more ideas amongst you guys as to what it can become, and I am pretty excited about that. </div> <div><br></div><div>I think if we can brainstorm on the structure, naming and categorization and freeze on a model, I can take it forward from there to do a couple of iterations on the icons. Fred, I can share the icons as SVGs, can we create a wiki where we could assemble all our ideas and production material for an interactive map?</div> <div><br></div><div>Also I would like to mention that this poster would not have been possible without the support of Harriet and Amit at the Digital Bridge Foundation, Reliance Communications, Mumbai.<br></div><div><br> </div> <div>Regards,</div><div>Gaurav</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gaurav_b@nid.edu" target="_blank">gaurav_b@nid.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Sameer Verma</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>></span><br> Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:53 AM<br> Subject: Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] Project process visualization<br>To: David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>Cc: Frederick Grose <<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:olpc-open@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">olpc-open@lists.laptop.org</a>, <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>, Marketing <<a href="mailto:marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:gaurav_b@nid.edu" target="_blank">gaurav_b@nid.edu</a>, amit gogna <<a href="mailto:amit.gognaa@gmail.com" target="_blank">amit.gognaa@gmail.com</a>>, Harriet Vidyasagar <<a href="mailto:outofindia@gmail.com" target="_blank">outofindia@gmail.com</a>><br> <br><br>On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br> > Hey Gaurav,<br> ><br> > The diagram is great! This is what I had originally envisioned for<br> > our getting started page on the [www|wiki].<a href="http://sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org</a>.<br> ><br> > The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the<br> > different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work. Yet,<br> > individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they<br> > can learn more about.<br> ><br> > It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary<br> > and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive<br> > 'map' for the project.<br> ><br> > FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for<br> > naming and categorization:)<br> ><br> > David<br> ><br> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose <<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >> Hi Gaurav,<br> >> I like your visualization of the social communication process for the<br> >> OLPC project. The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept, the<br> >> cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the overlap<br> >> with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed.<br> >> I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show more<br> >> detail of a process. For example, we could use such a map to explain and<br> >> guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools.<br> >> Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on<br> >> prototypes and drafts for their processes?<br> >> We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging concepts in<br> >> our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a navigational<br> >> aids.<br> >> Thank you for your contributions!<br> >> --Fred<br> >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan <<a href="mailto:gaurav_b@nid.edu" target="_blank">gaurav_b@nid.edu</a>> wrote:<br> >>><br> >>> Hi everyone,<br> >>><br> >>> While I was a student of information design at National Institute of<br> >>> Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem to<br> >>> support the OLPC project in India.<br> >>><br> >>> I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger<br> >>> advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach.<br> >>><br> >>> It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if you<br> >>> guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in terms<br> >>> of making it interactive.<br> >>><br> >>> Regards,<br> >>> Gaurav Bhushan<br> >>> User Experience Design<br> >>> Google, India<br> >>><br> >>> --<br> >>> Gaurav Bhushan<br> >>> Information Design<br> >>> National Institute of Design, India<br> >>><br> >>><br> >>> _______________________________________________<br> >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> >>> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> >>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> >><br> >><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> Marketing mailing list<br> >> <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a><br> >><br> >><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Marketing mailing list<br> > <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a><br> ><br> <br> Hi Gaurav,<br> <br> Its good to finally see your model on the lists here. I'm also quite<br> pleased that you are done with school and are at Google (Hyd I<br> presume?). Congratulations!<br> <br> I saw Gaurav's model last year when I was visiting Reliance/DBF in<br> India - this is the group that did Khairat<br> (<a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_school" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_school</a>). Obviously, Gaurav has put<br> a lot of effort into it. My suggestions were to (1) release it under a<br> CC style license and (2) maybe explore an interface (AJAX or<br> otherwise) that would allow "Zoom in" and Zoom out" of different<br> cycles and levels for big picture and drill down details with<br> explanations and links at each level.<br> <br> cheers,<br> Sameer<br> <font color="#888888">--<br> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.<br> Associate Professor of Information Systems<br> San Francisco State University<br> San Francisco CA 94132 USA<br> <a href="http://verma.sfsu.edu/" target="_blank">http://verma.sfsu.edu/</a><br> <a href="http://opensource.sfsu.edu/" target="_blank">http://opensource.sfsu.edu/</a><br> </font></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Gaurav Bhushan<br>Information Design<br>National Institute of Design, India<br><br> </blockquote></div><br></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br><div><div></div><div class="h5">Gaurav Bhushan<br>Information Design<br>National Institute of Design, India<br><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>