<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im"><br> <br> </div>At this point I would have to recommend not referring SoaS as<br> classroom ready. The classroom is an extremely demanding<br> environment:<br> 1. One teacher - 25 squirmy kids.<br> 2. Almost no system administration resources.<br> 3. Little formal SoaS teacher training available.<br> 4. Very distinct, often testable, learning objectives of a given class period.<br> <br> In a classroom environment, the system must be rock solid!</blockquote><div><br>Great list! Lets keep this insight. I'd just change "teacher training" to "teacher support". In an ideal world we don't train for a few days and send people off alone, we have ongoing support for teacher learning communities.<br> <br>Also we need to distinish between Sugar on a Stick, working with existing equiptment which is very much in Beta, and Sugar as the operating system for a 1-1 laptop program in an elementary school. Although, far from where we want it to be, I think an arguement can be made that Sugar is the most widely used solution worldwide for this use case. If a school or district is persuing a well planned, deliberate 1-1 program on any type of new netbook or laptop, for Sugar's target age range, Sugar should defitely be one of the options they evaluate.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> <font color="#888888">david</font></blockquote><div><br>A related topic is: Is Sugar on a Stick "Summer Program" ready?<br><br>The Sweet:<br><ol><li>Summer programs are less formal and often have an agenda to expose kids to a wide range of new experiences</li> <li>Many summer programs take place in schools and after school centers that have a computer lab</li><li>Summer programs are often staffed with teens who maybe quite computer literate</li><li>Summer programs start in the end of June or so in the US and go to mid august. Sugar would not need to be ready day 1.<br> </li></ol>The Sour:<br><ol><li>People are still reporting frustration creating sticks - Will this be significantly lower by July 1?</li><li>Do we have access to project idea resources for camp staff once they get it working? If we had Scratch on the stick we'd have a big Yes to this question. Scratch is widely used in out of school programs.<br> </li><li>Can we support voluteers and camp staff as they strugle with their hardware?</li><li>Are we organizationally ok with the fact that some people will try and fail and be upset about it? Do we think we will get more success then failure? Will it be worth it?<br> </li></ol></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><font color="#888888"><br> </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> > Thanks,<br> > Christoph<br> ><br> > --<br> > Christoph Derndorfer<br> > co-editor, olpcnews<br> > url: <a href="http://www.olpcnews.com" target="_blank">www.olpcnews.com</a><br> > e-mail: <a href="mailto:christoph@olpcnews.com">christoph@olpcnews.com</a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> ><br> _______________________________________________<br> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br><br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br>