2 of the computers were boat anchors as far as I could tell and could not boot into windows. I will confirm and then see if someone locally wants to take them appart and try to fix them. I unfortunately did not have the password to get into windows. They are getting me that for next time. The person I am working with did believe they had network access from windows. I brougth a Puppy CD with me, I've found Puppy is the most likely to boot a machine. I didn't use it this time though as I ran out of time and I wasn't really sure where to start! I can go back as soon as Tuesday, its only 15 minutes from both Walter and my houses. (its right in the middle!). Keep the suggestions coming!! Thanks, Caroline <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche <<a href="mailto:cafl@msbit.com">cafl@msbit.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Welcome to the world of school computers. My suggestions: Take a blank formatted SOAS drive with you. Take a (Fedora/Ubuntu) live cd with you. When testing, if the first soas boot fails, you should: Boot windows. See if the windows boot has network access. See if the cursor/mouse is working. See if you can read the soas stick having data (e.g. see the files. Read some specific file). See if you can write the soas stick with no data. If you can't do these things the machine is a boat anchor. If you can, see if you can boot the livecd. gmail the dmesg output to yourself and the list ... more diagnosis will be possible. Any other suggestions from the more knowledgeable? <div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Caroline Meeks <<a href="mailto:caroline@solutiongrove.com" target="_blank">caroline@solutiongrove.com</a>> wrote: </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5"> YMCA Computer Lab 4/4/09 The Waltham YMCA is a community center with a room with 10 computers pretty much all different. We have been invited to present Sugar at Healthy Kids Day on April 18th. I went today to test SoaS Overall Results Only one computer (#8) was able to run SoaS2 Three computers ran SoaS1 = #2, #3, #4, No computers could connect to the internet or see any other Sugar machine. Here are my notes. It worries me that we are giving out SoaS2 at FOSSVT yet it seems to have a much higher failure rate. It would be good if we could figure out some of these bugs. Detailed Notes: Starting to the left of the door ordering computers clockwise. Computer 1 – Does not stay on regardless of USB – Broken Computer. Computer 2 – F8 for setup then you can boot from USB. SoaS2 Assuming Drive Cache write Through – No boot SoaS1 – Boots Computer 3 Boots with CD helper on Soas2 but you can't see a curser for the mouse. I can tell its there because I can get the frame to appear and disappear. SoaS1 Boots and you can see the curser arrow No internet access no one in neighborhood Del allowed me to change bios to boot from USB. Booting SoaS1 Computer 4 SoaS2 Assuming Drive Cache write Through – No boot SoaS1 – Boots, no internet access, no one in neighborhood. Computer 5 Delete to enter setup. SoaS1 create symlink error. Computer 6 Power button appears to be broken – Broken Computer Computer 7 Started to boot from USB SosS2 :: Denied BIOS AML access to invaldi pot 0x4d0+0x2 SoaS1 Gets to blue line then EXT – Fs error device dm-0 ext3_journal_start_sb deteceted aborted journal – inode 6609, block544159 and 54305 Remounting filesystem read-only but does not boot Computer 8 Boots SoaS 2 from USB, no internet Used Del then changed the order of the hard drives Sound works Computer 9 Used Del then changed the order of the hard drives SoaS2 :: Denied BIOS AML access to invaldi port 0x4d0+0x1 (PICO) [sdb] Assuming drive cahce: write through SoaS1 – you must specify a file system type Computer 10 SoaS2 with Boot helper - Canot find root file system Same error with SoaS1 -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax </div></div>_______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </blockquote></div> -- "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair </blockquote></div> -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax