Generally speaking, I have to agree with Gary. I feel like I'm being invited to a Gallery opening, rather than being encouraged to try some software :)<br><br>I would really prefer to see something along the lines of <a href="http://getfirefox.com/">http://getfirefox.com/</a> with content links pointing at well designed Wiki pages containing the content from this site.<br>
<br>Anyway, the general structure of the site is really nice - I'm just wondering what its primary purpose is. And I'm a bit concerned with how much Wiki content is duplicated, and the fact that I have no idea how to change stuff, like adding the ActivityTeam to the contributors list for example.<br>
<br>Best regards,<br>Wade<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary C Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gary@garycmartin.com">gary@garycmartin.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On 27 Feb 2009, at 14:54, David Farning wrote:<br>
<br>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Christian Schmidt<br>
> <<a href="mailto:schmidt@pentagram.com">schmidt@pentagram.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Thanks Sean. We are in the final stages of proofing content on the<br>
>> betasite,<br>
>> and think we will go live this weekend. Stay tuned!<br>
><br>
> Christian, I officially withdraw any reservations I had about the<br>
> new site:)<br>
<br>
</div>Sorry to be negative here.<br>
<br>
I must admit I still really struggle with this site, I had hoped I'd<br>
just seen a very early WIP. All those super large font marketing speak<br>
text clippings surrounded by ellipsis; when you click one you're<br>
jumped to another large font text /todo/ type list page, covered in<br>
block highlights. That odd pop-up menu, permanently floating over the<br>
same fixed place and in the way of the main text flow. Due to the<br>
large font's, and unusual line spacing, there's a lot of up/down page<br>
scrolling needed when really much of the content could fit on a single<br>
pages. I'm also not sure what are navigation links are what are not<br>
(non-standard, some coloured things are titles, some are links), or<br>
what pages I've already been to (link colours change from page to<br>
page, not based on visited or one).<br>
<br>
Not that I completely agree with everything he says, but I think Jakob<br>
Nielsen (<a href="http://www.useit.com/" target="_blank">http://www.useit.com/</a>) will have a coronary if he ever finds<br>
this site ;-)<br>
<br>
Hopefully it's just a combination of the code not working correctly in<br>
Safari, and/or me not being the target audience.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
--Gary<br>
</font><br>
P.S. In fairness I should also go through the site again and make a<br>
list of things I did like (i.e. the page with grid layout of<br>
activities, nice large colourful icons with simple clear descriptions).<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
> I showed it around my nephew's elementary school yesterday; The<br>
> teachers, teachers aids, and parents thought it was great!<br>
><br>
> The most interesting aspect was the change from the dark to light<br>
> background. They thought the dark, over welming, background<br>
> represented what one 'expects' from computers and the light background<br>
> was what you would 'want' from computers.<br>
><br>
> david<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Christian<br>
>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Sean DALY [mailto:<a href="mailto:sdaly.be@gmail.com">sdaly.be@gmail.com</a>]<br>
>> To: ,Josh williams [mailto:<a href="mailto:joshcwilliams@gmail.com">joshcwilliams@gmail.com</a>]<br>
>> Cc: David Farning [mailto:<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>], <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>> ,<br>
>> <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>, Christian Marc Schmidt<br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:schmidt@pentagram.com">schmidt@pentagram.com</a>]<br>
>> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:05:48 -0500<br>
>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme<br>
>> unity<br>
>><br>
>> Greetings Josh!<br>
>><br>
>> In fact lots of work has been done on this by Christian, see for<br>
>> example:<br>
>> <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo</a><br>
>> <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website</a><br>
>><br>
>> and, in beta:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> May I suggest you join the Marketing list?<br>
>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a><br>
>><br>
>> We have IRC meetings on Tuesdays at 1600 UTC:<br>
>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/</a><br>
>> 000341.html<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> We are gearing up for the imminent Sugar 0.84 release.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> Sean<br>
>> Marketing Coordinator<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:08 AM, ,Josh williams <<a href="mailto:joshcwilliams@gmail.com">joshcwilliams@gmail.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hey David,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I have had a quick look at the markup and the CSS, but I haven't<br>
>>> actually had a look at the PHP. I laughed when I saw the Mozilla<br>
>>> guys<br>
>>> had an IE style sheet, but then I figured they were probably just<br>
>>> reusing code. I was actually wondering if I could have a local<br>
>>> copy of<br>
>>> the remora code or access to a development or testing environment at<br>
>>> some point?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I also agree that we need a common branding for all of the sites,<br>
>>> Gnome<br>
>>> is a great example I think Mozilla and Ubuntu are good examples<br>
>>> to. I<br>
>>> think a splash page for <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">www.sugarlabs.org</a> built on WordPress or<br>
>>> Drupal<br>
>>> would be a really good idea also. It could explain the what the<br>
>>> project<br>
>>> is, have a download link to the latest version, link to the wiki,<br>
>>> press<br>
>>> release, news etc.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Josh<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> David Farning wrote:<br>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Wade Brainerd <<a href="mailto:wadetb@gmail.com">wadetb@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help!<br>
>>>>> I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I<br>
>>>>> wonder<br>
>>>>> off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make<br>
>>>>> addons.sl.o<br>
>>>>> look<br>
>>>>> *more* like the other sl.o sites?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Have you gotten a chance to look at the aslo code?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Things are kind of confusing right now<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> with the different styles of wiki, trac, addons, schools,<br>
>>>>> gitorious,<br>
>>>>> api,<br>
>>>>> buildbot, etc. planet is the lone exception, it seems to follow<br>
>>>>> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">wiki.sugarlabs.org</a> nicely :)<br>
>>>>> It would be great if the Design Team could comment on this<br>
>>>>> decision.<br>
>>>>> Here are a couple other web infrastructure ideas:<br>
>>>>> + Improve theming consistency among various SL.o sites.<br>
>>>>> + Single sign on cookie among all SL.o sites - perhaps OpenID<br>
>>>>> based.<br>
>>>>> + Standard nav header atop all SL.o sites rather than the<br>
>>>>> various nav<br>
>>>>> headers in different places, with different links.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The various gnome sites such as <a href="http://build.gnome.org" target="_blank">build.gnome.org</a> and <a href="http://www.gnome.org" target="_blank">www.gnome.org</a><br>
>>>> are<br>
>>>> very nice examples of common theming tying sites together. Some<br>
>>>> thing<br>
>>>> similar for SL would be great.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> david<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> + Better splash page for Gitorious, looking more like GitWeb - a<br>
>>>>> page<br>
>>>>> with a<br>
>>>>> small search box at the top and the rest being a list of projects,<br>
>>>>> sorted by<br>
>>>>> recent activity, showing owner and last commit details<br>
>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>> Wade<br>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ,Josh williams<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:joshcwilliams@gmail.com">joshcwilliams@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hi, I'm working on the design of sugar labs add-ons with Mick<br>
>>>>>> Weiss.<br>
>>>>>> I've created a mock up at <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design</a><br>
>>>>>> but I've haven't been able to contact anyone on the design team<br>
>>>>>> as of<br>
>>>>>> yet. I would also like to volunteer some of my time for other<br>
>>>>>> projects.<br>
>>>>>> I'm primarily a front-end designer with XHTML/CSS JavaScript<br>
>>>>>> skills,<br>
>>>>>> but<br>
>>>>>> I also know some PHP/MySQL and have a background in Linux. I<br>
>>>>>> also enjoy<br>
>>>>>> creating icons, so if there are any activities developers that<br>
>>>>>> need<br>
>>>>>> icons please contact me. My portfolio is over at <a href="http://tucsonlabs.com" target="_blank">http://tucsonlabs.com</a><br>
>>>>>> .<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> If you're a member of the design team or have some use for my<br>
>>>>>> skills,<br>
>>>>>> please let me know.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thanks<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Josh<br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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