<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Alan Kay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.nemo@yahoo.com">alan.nemo@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div>Exactly right Bill!<br><br>What the learner needs to help them learn comes before all. This will lead to what kinds of materials hard and soft can support their learning. </div> </div></div></blockquote><div><br>Nod, and one of our learner groups are the teachers!  When we are creating our activity creation frameworks we are creating materials that will support their learning.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><br><br>(The context for these two sentences is that we also need to have a real idea of what it is we'd like to help them learn, and this can range from "whatever strikes their fancy" to e.g. "it would be really good to help everyone learn real mathematical thinking and doing".)</div> </div></div></blockquote><div><br>this is pretty powerful. Might be worth creating a wiki page to think together about this. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Alan<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Bill Kerr <<a href="mailto:billkerr@gmail.com" target="_blank">billkerr@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Marco Pesenti Gritti <<a href="mailto:marcopg@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">marcopg@sugarlabs.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>; "Costello, Rob R" <<a href="mailto:Costello.Rob.R@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">Costello.Rob.R@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 6, 2009 3:37:01 PM<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [IAEP] Thoughts on Pedagogy and supporting activity creators<br> </div></font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:marcopg@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">marcopg@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Caroline Meeks<br> <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:caroline@solutiongrove.com" target="_blank">caroline@solutiongrove.com</a>> wrote:<br> > Yes we need to think about whether these people are using Python, eToys,<br> > JavaScript or Flash to convert these worksheets into a Sugarized activity,<br> > but we also need to think about how the process of Sugarizing can help them<br> > create a more effective learning experience for these students then the<br> > original mimeographed exercises.<br> <br> </div>+1! I think looking beyond technicalities this is a very important<br> point. (Yeah, I'll share my thoughts about technicalities too, as soon<br> as I managed to get email backlog under control!).</blockquote><div><br></div></div><br><h1><font size="2"><span>Knowing and Teaching Elementary Mathematics: Teachers' Understanding of Fundamental Mathematics in China and the United States (Studies in Mathematical Thinking and Learning.)</span></font></h1>Liping Ma<br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://books.google.com.au/books?id=EjkKBotJcyIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:Liping+inauthor:Ma#PPP1,M1" target="_blank">http://books.google.com.au/books?id=EjkKBotJcyIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:Liping+inauthor:Ma#PPP1,M1</a><br> <br> looks fantastic, I read the contents page, forward and introduction from the google books URL<br> <br>foundational knowledge: one and three quarters divided by a half<br> <br>** Make up a good story to represent that problem **<br> <br> This question needs to be asked first before deciding whether to use flash, javascript, python, etoys or scratch to represent that story </div></div></div></div></div><br> </div><br>_______________________________________________<br> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br> <br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br>