good responses to leigh blackall's complaints by Jim Tittsler and David Leeming on this <span id="thread_subject_site">Tuvaluans on Wikieducator thread (scroll down)</span><br><br><a href="http://groups.google.co.nz/group/wikieducator/browse_thread/thread/410a6bb8eaf5aa66">http://groups.google.co.nz/group/wikieducator/browse_thread/thread/410a6bb8eaf5aa66</a><br> <br>(pointed out by Leigh himself on his blog)<br><br>On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Eben Eliason <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eben.eliason@gmail.com">eben.eliason@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">Good summary.<br> <br> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Jameson Quinn <<a href="mailto:jameson.quinn@gmail.com">jameson.quinn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">> Here is my list of complaints from that evaluation, which was obviously<br> > using a 600-series OS version.<br> ><br> > not traditional desktop metaphor<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">Fact.<br> <br> > no tabbed browsing<br> <br> I have a proposal for this which I've been meaning to mockup.  I'm<br> adding it to my todo list now.<br> <br> > flaky wireless<br> <br> A lot better, these days.<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">> some bad machines: difficulty turning on and peeling mousepad.<br> > flaky mouse<br> > has a mouse instead of mouse-alternatives (?)<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">Hardware. (Still important, being worked on.)<br> <br> > popup menus too slow<br> <br> This is something we should look into.  Actually, we've slowed down<br> their appearance since then, because we found that people were often<br> waiting for the menu, instead of clicking directly on the icon/button<br> directly.  We've also added the right-click to reveal the palette<br> immediately.  I think the current state is reasonable, but more<br> feedback on this is welcomed.<br> <br> > activity startup too slow<br> <br> Improving a little.<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">> see address in browser bar should be easier (fixed)<br> <br> </div>Yup.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > hard to save to USB. Should be accessible from within an activity.<br> <br> </div>Yup.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > scroll bars too small, especially for subsidiary panes (interesting issue<br> > for grab key, BTW)<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">Right.  The grab key continually eludes.  I know Erik worked on it for<br> a bit, but I don't know the current status or if it's possible to roll<br> it into a build soon.  If we aren't going to have the grab key, we<br> truly are going to have to increase the size of the scroll bars.<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">> I may have missed a few, but I think that most of these are either already<br> > the focus of effort (and progress) or have been decided against by many<br> > here. The one I bolded is I think a useful one: why not have a "keep to USB"<br> > and "keep to SD" option in the keep dropdown menu in the activity toolbar?<br> <br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">You're absolutely right, and that has definitely been the plan.<br> External devices have never gotten any polish; hopefully as we<br> redesign the manner in which they work and interact with the Journal<br> we can also add these types of features.<br> <br> - Eben<br> <br> </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> Jameson<br> ><br> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> FYI.<br> >><br> >><br> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> >> From: Valerie Taylor <<a href="mailto:vtaylor@gmail.com">vtaylor@gmail.com</a>><br> >> Date: Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:13 AM<br> >> Subject: [OLPC-SF] Not new, but needs to be addressed<br> >> To: <a href="mailto:olpc-sf@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sf@lists.laptop.org</a><br> >><br> >><br> >> This just in from a well-meaning colleague who was using XOs. There<br> >> are lots of issues identified here. There is a serious<br> >> failure-to-communicate. These are real concerns for many people and<br> >> this is what they hear. It is easy to dismiss this as Leigh's problem,<br> >> but it isn't his alone. Everyone of us associated with OLPC needs to<br> >> do a better job at bridging this gap.<br> >><br> >> Are there good sources of information that address these issues and<br> >> guidelines that would ease the transition from PC to XO in situations<br> >> like this?<br> >><br> >><br> >> <a href="http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/my-experience-with-olpc-in-tuvalu/" target="_blank">http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/my-experience-with-olpc-in-tuvalu/</a><br> >><br> >> ..Valerie<br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> OLPC-SF mailing list<br> >> <a href="mailto:OLPC-SF@lists.laptop.org">OLPC-SF@lists.laptop.org</a><br> >> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf</a><br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> --<br> >> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name<br> >> And Children are my nation.<br> >> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination.<br> >> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai</a><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> >> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br> ><br> _______________________________________________<br> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br> <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br>