On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <<a href="mailto:dr@jones.dk">dr@jones.dk</a>> wrote: <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 <div class="Ih2E3d"> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 10:53:05PM +1030, Bill Kerr wrote: >I recently discovered, that MIT had changed the Scratch license from >free to non commercial </div>That is indeed sad news! :-( <div class="Ih2E3d"> >On reading the threads about the Squeak / Etoys / Debian issues then it >would appear to me that this will effect the distribution of Scratch on >Sugar to Debian at least, perhaps others </div>Scratch is not currently packaged for Debian, but Pierre Thierry (of Skolelinux/Debian-edu france) is working on it. Cc'ing the bugreport for that packaging work. <div class="Ih2E3d"> >Tom Hoffman wrote in his blog on October 14th: >"Since it is un-free software it cannot be put in Debian, Ubuntu, Red >Hat, or any other free software distribution. Can it be shipped on the >XO? This license *significantly* restricts the distribution of Scratch >to children around the world, and to what benefit?" ><a href="http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2008/10/scratch-goes-un-free.html" target="_blank">http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2008/10/scratch-goes-un-free.html</a> > >I don't understand MIT thinking on this issue and am concerned about >this potential block in the distribution of Scratch (my current >preferred visual programming teaching program). It was for these sorts >of reasons that I stopped using Game Maker (never open source, >initially freeware but when it became successful it went onto a >commercial pathway) > >What is MIT thinking on this issue? > >also see ><a href="http://scratch.wik.is/Scratch_License" target="_blank">http://scratch.wik.is/Scratch_License</a> ><a href="http://scratch.wik.is/Support_Previous/Scratch_License/License" target="_blank">http://scratch.wik.is/Support_Previous/Scratch_License/License</a> </div>Do you have an alternative link to the old license? Above page now redirects to the new license, and it seems that wiki does not provide access to older revisions of pages.</blockquote><div> This is the license (dated 5/7/2007) which is in the folder of my copy of scratch downloaded previously: Scratch Copyright (c) 2007 Massachusetts Institute of Technology Scratch was developed by Lifelong Kindergarten group at the MIT Media Lab. See <a href="http://scratch.mit.edu">scratch.mit.edu</a>. Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and accompanying documentation and media files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.  </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">  - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136  Website: <a href="http://dr.jones.dk/" target="_blank">http://dr.jones.dk/</a>  [x] quote me freely  [ ] ask before reusing  [ ] keep private -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkVrHwACgkQn7DbMsAkQLj8KACfVF8VFGKoOt2WmAv7Vvue4hzP rxYAoJyuChWLGMItcLP+mU5j4oPF/0gs =aYj7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </blockquote></div>