<div class="gmail_quote">-- Please disregard the typo in the earlier thread where I am referring to Scratch.  That was an oops moment. Probably on par with a major political candidate referring to Africa as a Country. -- Again, we had a productive thread about packaging Squeak on Linux Distributions. The discussion by members of distributions and product communities about their own communities' history and practices has been great! Sugar Labs Goals. Sugar Labs is working to make the best possible learning platform available to the most kids.  Squeak Etoys is an important part of that platform.  As such, we would like to help facilitate the distribution of Squeak on Linux distributions.  Source of Conflict. The core issues appears to be that Squeak, as distributed from upstream, is provided in a format that is unfamiliar to downstream packagers and distribution.  This unfamiliarity is being expressed as a concern by the three distributions involved in this discussion.   Effects of Conflict. The unfamiliarity has resulted in a number of concerns, real or perceived, on the behalf of the distributions.  I am not making a statement of fact that the concerns listed below are real or perceived.  I am listing them as issues that will needs to be communicated between upstream and the distributions. 1. License. 1. Availability of source code. 2. Maintainability of code by downstream. 3. Security. Action Item. Flesh out, and move this discussion to <a href="mailto:debian-devel@lists.debian.org" target="_blank">debian-devel@lists.debian.org</a>.  I will start that discussion with the participants of this thread cc:ed later this week. thanks david </div>