Thanks David that explanation make a lot more sense than my naive one. Who is the marketing/education contract guy?  I would like to touch base with him. I will also be at the meeting to explain background issues if necessary.  The other guys on the Ubuntu SugarTeam have gained much more credibility in the Ubuntu community and will be speaking for us. thanks david <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:01 PM, David Van Assche <<a href="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com">dvanassche@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The politics are far more complicated, edubuntu used to be a thriving community, which prompted Canonical to market the Educational side more and use the Ubuntu branding rather than edubuntu. It caused some confusion and the community sort of migrated to various areas, the most notable being LTSP. The main 'paid' edubuntu developer was moved to edubuntu netbook remix (also an education project) but is still quite active in upstream LTSP and edubuntu support. The marketing/education contracts guy is still paid by canonical and working on the educational side, so I wouldn't say they've given up, they've just made some strange re-branding decisions. Anyway, there is more info at the meeting next wednesday 18.00 UTC at #ubuntu-meeting for those interested in hearing the future of edubuntu and ubuntu in education, as well as how sugar can play a role there. I believe Morgan Collet will be presenting Sugar there. Kind Regards, David Van Assche <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:51 PM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote: > There is a Edubuntu developer planning session on Nov 5th.  At that point, > we will see about the process of making Subuntu an official release.  Ubuntu > educational efforts have not seemed to pay off for them yet.  They have > recently shifted their inhouse edubuntu developer to Ubuntu mobile. > > thanks > david > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <<a href="mailto:tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net">tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net</a>> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:19 AM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>> >> wrote: >> > It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a >> > Subuntu live usb.  Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted >> > information >> > on downloading and building the usb at >> > >> > <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/%7Eprobono/sbuntu/" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/</a> >> > >> > Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to >> > Probono >> > for building the sugar.squashfs. >> >> Awesome! Congrats to all the Ubuntu Sugarteam. >> >> Have already been any discussions about adding Subuntu to the list of >> official Ubuntu derivatives for the next release? Something similar to >> the Fedora Sugar spin? >> >> Regards, >> >> Tomeu > > </div></div>> _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> > </blockquote></div>