<div dir="ltr">Hello, <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> There are still a few loose ends to tie with the Turtle Art modification. I am trying to make it into somewhat of a case study that can be hopefully a catalyst not just to rote imitation but also to some deductive or model-based thinking about thinking. Also, the exercise has raised a few questions for me about our process that I hope to address/document. I realize that teachers don't have time to be developers, but I aspire that everyone will move towards all kinds of appropriation. Alas, I wish that OLPC had included the chapter on Modifying Sugar in their Help activity... -walter <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"></div></div></blockquote><div> I  get the feeling from the field that a guide for customizing and modifying Sugar would be very beneficial and fun  for kids and teachers, also would be a good tool to appropriate the technology. Kids are always asking about ways to make the computer more like them ;). </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div class="Wj3C7c"> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM, luis ACEVEDO <<a href="mailto:patitoacevedo@hotmail.com">patitoacevedo@hotmail.com</a>> wrote: > > > > Hi Greg: > >          TurtleArt-11.xo  worked perfectly. My report with  teacher´s > comment, screenshoots, and pedagogical support (only in spanish) here: > > <a href="http://patricioacevedo.blogspot.com/2008/09/mi-reporte-para-sugar-labs.html" target="_blank">http://patricioacevedo.blogspot.com/2008/09/mi-reporte-para-sugar-labs.html</a> > >        I want to try this features: >     1.- A Beep function in  TurtleArtwithsensors. >     2.- A easy way for to write "Hello word". I received a report about > uruguayan´s kids  writing  letters  with  the turtle´s lines, but this way > is slow and not fun. > > > > Thanks > > Pato Acevedo > > <a href="http://www.patricioacevedo.blogspot.com" target="_blank">www.patricioacevedo.blogspot.com</a> >> Hi Luis, >> >> I believe that Walter updated TurtleArt with a square root function to >> address this. >> >> Was that a satisfactory response? Let us know how that worked for you >> and the people who requested it. Any comments or input appreciated. >> >> What else do teachers and users need? Let's see if we can address some >> more requests and start to improve the quality of the dialog at the same >> time. >> >> Walter, >> >> Essentially the same questions for you. Did that go the way you wanted? >> I get the impression you wanted teachers to modify the code themselves. >> Maybe you can elaborate on that. Perhaps you could have asked if anyone >> wanted to learn how to do it. >> >> In the cycle of praxis, there's the action and the reflection. If we're >> done with the action on this one (still want to hear the final ack) then >> a little reflection may be in order until we pick the next small >> challenge. >> >> At the same time we can think about what tools work best to address >> these in the future. I didn't see the bug ID come through <a href="http://dev.laptop.org" target="_blank">dev.laptop.org</a> >> but I may have missed it. I assume IRC didn't work for Luis either... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg S >> >> > Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:24:27 +0000 >> > From: luis ACEVEDO <<a href="mailto:patitoacevedo@hotmail.com">patitoacevedo@hotmail.com</a>> >> > Subject: [IAEP] Teacher in OLPC-Sur list enchanted to see his idea >> > integrated into global Sugar update [First approach] >> > To: <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> >> > Message-ID: <BAY117-W10834903938401661B4A59A74C0@phx.gbl> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > >> > >> > Hello: >> > My name is Luis Acevedo, live in Santiago, Chile. I participate actively >> > in the mailing list OLPC-Sur and is closely monitoring the mailing list >> > Sugar Labs. Yesterday in the Sur- List we had a report about a required >> > feature for Turtle art activity. This is root square function. Teachers >> > found necessary this function in activities like figure 28 and others from >> > this page <a href="http://neoparaiso.com/logo/ejercicios-de-geometria.html" target="_blank">http://neoparaiso.com/logo/ejercicios-de-geometria.html</a> >> > I suggested to obtain a ticket trac in <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/</a> and to try >> > in the irc channel. >> > Is there a other way like to contact directly the authors? Is this a >> > correct place for this questions? >> > I feel it is a first opportunity to move from discussion to action. >> > Thanks in advance >> > >> > Luis "Pato" Acevedo >> > <a href="http://www.patricioacevedo.blogspot.com" target="_blank">www.patricioacevedo.blogspot.com</a> >> > <a href="http://www.ucpn.cl" target="_blank">www.ucpn.cl</a> >> > >> > > > ________________________________ > Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ¿Qué tipo de atleta eres? > ________________________________ </div></div><div class="Ih2E3d">> _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> > </div>-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Rafael Ortiz </div>