[resending to list]<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:03 PM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@gmail.com" target="_blank">dfarning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 22:23 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:<br> > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@gmail.com" target="_blank">dfarning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > > Here is a update of the wiki status.<br> > ><br> > > 1.  Started creating framework for developing modules within the large<br> > > sugar community.<br> > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SugarLabs:Community_Portal#Modules" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SugarLabs:Community_Portal#Modules</a><br> > ><br> > > I would like to begin the 'big move' by first moving/copying the olpc<br> > > information regarding theses topics to Sugar Labs. Is this something<br> > > that I should talk to Sj about? or would someone who has been involved<br> > > with OLPC and Sugar Labs prefer to start that conversation?<br> ><br> > Can you explain more in detail what you would like to move where?<br> </div>  * SugarModule<br>      * SugarBaseModule<br>      * SugarDatastoreModule<br>      * SugarPresenceServiceModule<br>      * SugarToolkitModule<br>      * SugarArtworkModule<br> <br> /loop/<br> 1.  I would like to go through the OLPC wiki page by page looking for<br> material related to developing the 6 modules listed above.  (working<br> with around 5 pages per batch)<br> 2.  Post a 'wiki -move request' to iaep and a appropriate communication<br> channel at OLPC.</blockquote></div><div><br>The appropriate channel is the OLPC wiki itself.   Transwiki'ed pages should copy their edit history to the new site.   The OLPC wiki could use a new template for suggesting a page for a transwiki move -- if it's no longer needed on the OLPC wiki, it can be replaced by a soft redirect.<br>  </div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> 3.  After receiving approval, export pages from wiki.olpc this will<br> leave original contents at olpc.</blockquote></div><div><br>You don't need approval to export pages from the wiki.  Both wikis use an attribution license, which makes reuse pretty straightforward.<br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> 4.  Tag pages on OLPC as "Maintained at Sugar Labs" as of \data\ with<br> link to Sugar Labs page</blockquote></div><div><br>Please only do this when it's clear that there is just one page being maintained and updated -- then add more than a tag; a full-page template that changes the background of the mirror page, saying "please go /here/ to update" is clearest.  For an exapmle, see the Help: pages on any wikipedia, which point to <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">meta.wikimedia.org</a> for the latest version.<br>  </div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> 5.  Import pages into correct place on <a href="http://wiki.sl" target="_blank">wiki.sl</a> heirarchy.<br> 6.  sleep several days<br> 7.  restart loop<br> /end loop/<br> </blockquote></div><div><br>You might want to measure out your sleep more carefully.<br> <br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> /for each loop/<br> 1. After brief waiting period, (1 week?) update links to original olpc<br> pages with an interwiki link to new location at Sugar Labs.</blockquote></div><div><br>A proper interwiki map can help make [[sugar:TITLE]] and [[olpc:TITLE]] do the right thing.<br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> 2.  After a second brief wait, (1 more week) replace original contents<br> at olpc with a redirect to new location.</blockquote></div><div><br>I don't think this is the right thing to do -- for most of the pages I can imagine in the above modules, the olpc page should include a short description and a link to details; at worst a number of specific subpages can be merged into a higher-level page, but each module will likely still want a couple pages @ olpc with a different lens into the information @ slwiki.<br>  </div><div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">3.  Request deletion of original page at olpc.<br> <div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>If the original page was at all interesting, it's better to leave a soft redirect. deleted pages break links on the wider web, which we don't want to do.<br>  <br>  </div><div class="Ih2E3d"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>> Bernie, I thought we installed the latest?<br> <br> </div>Sorry, <a href="http://sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org</a> is running 1.12.  I thought it was 1.5 last night<br> when I was attempting to debug my bot login.<br> </blockquote></div><div><br><br>SJ<br><br></div></div><br> </div><br>